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Mark -- Will you be subjecting anyone else who makes a comment you don't
agree with to similar scrutiny? And exposing them publically? Is this moral
and fair? Or do you play by the same unfair tactics and rules that you
accuse others of? (I suspect that others will ask many of these same
questions...) Have you violated any sort of list serv etiquette? How does
this make your morals look? Can your life and morals stand the same scrutiny?
What drives me is what drives many other who are contributing to this list
serv. We are working computer professionals who share a common zeal for
computers and technology. Some of us are very enthusiastic about
technology. Others are a bit more suspicious or even paranoid. A pretty
common range within any group dynamic.
I don't know about you, but I'm proud to be a real person with a real job.
I don't have anything to be ashamed of. How about sharing your credentials
I'm surprised that you didn't have something disparaging to say about my 8+
year NSF employment. Something like "...they only funded 6 Nobel Prize
winners last year." Or the fact the the Internet wouldn't what it is today
without our funding of major pieces of its infrastructure, without our
funding of NCSA and Mosaic, or without our contracting with Network
Solutions to provide the domain name infrastructure. Etc. Etc. BTW--we run
Solaris and Netscape Secure Web Server at NSF in addition to NT for
file/print/application servers. That will save you a bit of detective work.
I think you will find that I'm a pretty well rounded person with knowledge
across all the platforms. Thus my commentary probably should be acorded
some weight. Thanks for asking...
You were doing pretty good until your last two paragraphs. Once again you
dropped the ball before scoring. <G> I wrote a monthly column for
Government Computer News for most of those years reaching over 80,000
government computer professionals.
I'm also on the program committee for Interex's HP World 98 Conference and
did a lot of work with the programs for the last-ever UniForum show last
year. And I'm a former Mac bigot... ..and I'm currently on the Editorial
Review Board of Windows NT Magazine. And a bunch of other stuff too
numerous to mention...
Oh yeah, the NT*Pro is the world's largest independent "user group"
representing over 16,000 members. A throw-back to the early days of user
groups when the techies ruled. Full name is Association of Windows NT
Systems Professionals. Cover wide range of Server, interoperability and
C++ and Internet Development issues.
Now given all that, I'm more than willing to stand behind my credentials
and accomplishments when making accurate and incisive commentary.
At 09:04 PM 11/4/97 -0500, Mark Hinds wrote:
>OK, I had to know what drives a person such as Mr. Kelly.
>So I did some online PI'ing
>> NT*Pro has grown to over 16,222 members since being
>> personally launched by Microsoft's Bill Gates on
>> October 17, 1993. Over 1,005 new members have joined
>> during October '97!
>The Microsoft Mouse club :-)
>If you want to know "what's that server running"
>www.ntpro.org is running Microsoft-IIS/3.0. Microsoft-IIS
>Mr Kelly's www.cpcug.org is running NCSA/1.5.2.
>I guess they couldn't afford the MS server.
>For a small smile see: http://www.cpcug.org/user/ckelly/
>>From Alta Vista:
>Charles Kelly's Page
>Charles Kelly's Bio Page. Charles is a Computer Systems Analyst at the
>National Science Foundation in Arlington, VA. The Directorate for
>http://cpcug.org/user/ckelly/charles.html - size 6K - 26-Sep-96 - English
>(the link is broken)
>A search of www.nsf.gov shows:
>name: Kelly, Charles S.
>directorate: Mathematical & Physical Sciences
>division: Materials Research
>I found no articles authored by Mr Kelly, though I didn't try very hard
>after seeing the Alta Vista entry.
>I think Mr. Kelly maybe exagerating about his interviews and articles.
>It seems unlikely that he should be accorded anything but ordinary
>standing in this debate.
>Mark Hinds Linux*Shmo