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Incisive, maybe. Accurate, I don't think so. Sorry, Charles, you
must feel like the Maryland cops who hassled a Washington
DC attorney. Seriously exposed.
More at: http://www.ndsn.org/FEB95/MARYLAND.html.
Charles Kelly, NT*Pro wrote:
> Mark -- Will you be subjecting anyone else who makes a comment you don't
> agree with to similar scrutiny? And exposing them publically? Is this moral
> and fair? Or do you play by the same unfair tactics and rules that you
> accuse others of? (I suspect that others will ask many of these same
> questions...) Have you violated any sort of list serv etiquette? How does
> this make your morals look? Can your life and morals stand the same scrutiny?
> What drives me is what drives many other who are contributing to this list
> serv. We are working computer professionals who share a common zeal for
> computers and technology. Some of us are very enthusiastic about
> technology. Others are a bit more suspicious or even paranoid. A pretty
> common range within any group dynamic.
> I don't know about you, but I'm proud to be a real person with a real job.
> I don't have anything to be ashamed of. How about sharing your credentials
> with us?
> I'm surprised that you didn't have something disparaging to say about my 8+
> year NSF employment. Something like "...they only funded 6 Nobel Prize
> winners last year." Or the fact the the Internet wouldn't what it is today
> without our funding of major pieces of its infrastructure, without our
> funding of NCSA and Mosaic, or without our contracting with Network
> Solutions to provide the domain name infrastructure. Etc. Etc. BTW--we run
> Solaris and Netscape Secure Web Server at NSF in addition to NT for
> file/print/application servers. That will save you a bit of detective work.
> I think you will find that I'm a pretty well rounded person with knowledge
> across all the platforms. Thus my commentary probably should be acorded
> some weight. Thanks for asking...
> You were doing pretty good until your last two paragraphs. Once again you
> dropped the ball before scoring. <G> I wrote a monthly column for
> Government Computer News for most of those years reaching over 80,000
> government computer professionals.
> I'm also on the program committee for Interex's HP World 98 Conference and
> did a lot of work with the programs for the last-ever UniForum show last
> year. And I'm a former Mac bigot... ..and I'm currently on the Editorial
> Review Board of Windows NT Magazine. And a bunch of other stuff too
> numerous to mention...
> Oh yeah, the NT*Pro is the world's largest independent "user group"
> representing over 16,000 members. A throw-back to the early days of user
> groups when the techies ruled. Full name is Association of Windows NT
> Systems Professionals. Cover wide range of Server, interoperability and
> C++ and Internet Development issues.
> Now given all that, I'm more than willing to stand behind my credentials
> and accomplishments when making accurate and incisive commentary.
> At 09:04 PM 11/4/97 -0500, Mark Hinds wrote:
> >OK, I had to know what drives a person such as Mr. Kelly.
> >So I did some online PI'ing
> >>From <http://www.ntpro.org/>
> >> NT*Pro has grown to over 16,222 members since being
> >> personally launched by Microsoft's Bill Gates on
> >> October 17, 1993. Over 1,005 new members have joined
> >> during October '97!
> >The Microsoft Mouse club :-)
> >If you want to know "what's that server running"
> >see: http://www.netcraft.co.uk/cgi-bin/Survey/whats?host=www.ntpro.orgport=80
> >www.ntpro.org is running Microsoft-IIS/3.0. Microsoft-IIS
> >Mr Kelly's www.cpcug.org is running NCSA/1.5.2.
> >I guess they couldn't afford the MS server.
> >For a small smile see: http://www.cpcug.org/user/ckelly/
> >>From Alta Vista:
> >Charles Kelly's Page
> >Charles Kelly's Bio Page. Charles is a Computer Systems Analyst at the
> >National Science Foundation in Arlington, VA. The Directorate for
> Mathematical and..
> >http://cpcug.org/user/ckelly/charles.html - size 6K - 26-Sep-96 - English
> >(the link is broken)
> >A search of www.nsf.gov shows:
> >name: Kelly, Charles S.
> >email: ckelly
> >directorate: Mathematical & Physical Sciences
> >division: Materials Research
> >I found no articles authored by Mr Kelly, though I didn't try very hard
> >after seeing the Alta Vista entry.
> >I think Mr. Kelly maybe exagerating about his interviews and articles.
> >It seems unlikely that he should be accorded anything but ordinary
> >standing in this debate.
> >Mark Hinds Linux*Shmo
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