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Re: Smoking gun in CA
> Assuming... you don't want to use the line for anything else,
> that you like leaving your computer running all the time
> that you never sleep, eat or go out...
There are many people who do this and would definately do it if they had
flat rate service.
Please remember. We are the original provider of ISDN access to the Internet in
the US. We started in 1993. We have one of the largest ISDN dialup networks in
the country in the area (Silicon Valley) where people tend to be the leading
edge indicators for technology trends.
I see who nails stuff up on our network. We have many customers who do that
With the current ISDN residential tarrif, its still cost competitive to use
nailed up ISDN compared to 128kbps Frame Relay services if you want to minimize
startup equipment costs (the monthly costs are almost equal). So we do have
people doing that now and lots of people asking to do it (we really try to move
those people to Frame Relay or to put their Web Servers at our WebFarm[TM]
It is true that nailed up lines are happening more for modems than for ISDN
right now and I bet that the phone companies will eventually want to limit
that. but its also true that there are MUCH fewer 64k clear channel trunk links
voice grade trunks in the phone networks. We regularly see messages from the
phone network saying that there are no requested services (for 64k clear
Again, the "destruction of the common" shows what happens when a shared and
limited resource is made available at no cost. I may not have the phrase
completely correct, its from a book of a similar title that studied how the
British commons where farmers brought their cattle to craze was destroyed when
a minority of farmers took advantage of the no cost access to the commons to
overgraze their cattle at the expense of the people who used it fairly. has
happened everytime a limited. The book goes on to show how this effect has
happened to other shared no cost resources.
Low flat rates would do the same to the limited resources of the switched
Again, there are other technologies available now or in the near (2 - 5 years)
that will allow low cost "dedicated" links (Digital Subscriber Loop (ADSL,
SDSL, HDSL), Cable Modems, new wireless techniques and so on. And as mentioned
ISDN technology can be tweaked to improve utilization of the shared switchinig
network. There are pricing models that support this much better than ether
extreme of Flat Rate or overpriced pure usage rates.
Instead of creating and maintaining a confrontatory, us vs them situation that
the traditional PUC mechanisms reinforce, we should be striving to create win /
win situations. The confrontatory politics is obsolete. Corporate monopolistic
steamrolling is obsolete. We need to now create new models of cooperation,
coopitition. The Internet has been a great example where competitors, provider
and end users have successfully gotten together based on concensus standards.
It creates a situation where the entire pie grows bigger and technology and
services can grow at astoundiing rates...
Robert J. Berger - CTO / VP of Engineering
InterNex Information Services, Inc. 2302 Walsh Rd. Santa Clara, CA 95051
Voice: 408-327-2290 Fax: 408-496-5484