Re: Reply to Petra Bonni (dioxin in chicken)

[fredjb@xs4all.nl]

Hallo,

As far as i know, PCB transformer oil is a source for dioxins.
This may be an explanation for the probably large amount of dioxin we are talking about here, because PCB contamination of waste oil, is a well known problem.
Only recently in the Netherlands more stringent measures to ban PCB's where taken. So its certainly a possibility that somebody was looking for a cheap way to get rid of PCB-containing waste......?


F.J.M. Bakker
Forensic Laboratory
Rijswijk
Netherlands
F.Bakker@Gl.minjus.nl








Date sent:      	Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:39:51 -0400
Send reply to:  	JF.Focant@student.ulg.ac.be
From:           	Focant Jean-Francois <JF.Focant@student.ulg.ac.be>
To:             	Multiple recipients of list DIOXIN-L <dioxin-l@essential.org>
Subject:        	Reply to Petra Bonni (dioxin in chicken)

At 13:40 2/06/99 +0200, you wrote:
>I would like to comment on the message from Jean-François Focant which
>deals with the dioxin contamination of chicken and eggs in belgium.
>
>
>The german news say, that the source of contamination has been mineral
>oil, which has been transported in the truck before they filled in the
>vegetable oil they use to produce the nutrition.
>
>The transportation of food or the ingredients for food in germany is
>only allowed in special tanks. Those tanks are not allowed to be used
>for antything else except food.
>
>Does anyone know if this is different in belgium?
>
>Dipl.-Chem. Petra Bonni
>University of Karlsruhe
>Institute of Chemical Engineering
>Germany
>Tel : ++49 721 608 2118
>mailto : bonni@ict.uni-karlsruhe.de
 

Hello Miss Bonni,


The dedications of special trucks for food transport are obviously the same (or nearly) in Belgium than in Germany (European rules...) . This is absoloutly prohibited to share same tanks to stock food and others products.


If the German news are correct (which would be very surprising that media diffuse real informations...) and if different types of oils have been transported by the same truck, the considered "mineral oil" should have been highly contaminated to leave so important traces, don't you think so?


For me, that's not possible that a so big contamination is only the results of such a "cross transport". We have to remember that chicken have a life time of approx. one month...which is very short to accumulate quantities of toxicants. Peoples responsible of the preparation of food should have made a big "mistake" in the preparation in using industrial contaminated oil (oil is often used to clean contaminated fumes in industry and is quite difficult to recycle or leave in landfill !). It should be usefull to search others classical industrial oils contaminants in the considered food (if still possible, the investigation of the food production factory has not started yet...).


Somebody has played the card of business with health, now we have to pay for him...


Sincerely,
   Focant Jean-François  University of Liege  Mass Spectrometry Laboratory  Allee de la Chimie, 17 (B6c)  B-4000 Sart-Tilman (Liege 1)  BELGIUM  Tel : ++32 (0) 4 3663531  Fax : ++32 (0) 4 3663413  @mail : JF.Focant@student.ulg.ac.be