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Public Policy
Charles, you are losing it. You are responding to
things I haven't written.
I did not buy OS2. I do not like OS2.
The fact is, I like many Microsoft products a lot! Including
the latest version but one of VC++. Excel is pretty
cool, too.
Those are not the issues here. The issues here are whether
Microsoft is enjoying a privileged position because of past
unfair business tactics. I think that it is, but I can see that
this is a complicated issue. A secondary issue is that I
am not satisfied with the treatment accorded past briefs
filed by various companies. (There is a Borland brief filed
by someone who now works for Microsoft that should be
dug up and thought about at DOJ) I can't PROVE any of
this stuff--but there is enough there to think something fishy
was up.
The public policy issue that needs to be considered is
whether we want a single company to control the Internet.
We don't! Microsoft simply has no right to claim the
Internet--it developed IN SPITE OF Microsoft. Look
back at late 1994, when the number of people on
the web began to explode exponentially.
I think the Internet is a fascinating machine, one
capable of repairing itself. I believe the American
democracy has the same property.
Tod Landis
Charles Kelly, NT*Pro wrote:
> Its pretty obvious why, Tod. They bought because they trusted and believed
> in Microsoft. They also bought because they liked the products. Its is a
> real simple equation. You bought OS/2 and OS/2 products because you liked
> it. Millions of others bought Windows and Microsoft products because they
> liked them. There are many, many more of them than people like you. They
> voted with their dollars. The election is over, though it is repeated on
> very regular cycles. And voters are notoriously fickle... <G>
>
> My theory is that people buy hardware and operating systems as "necessary
> evils " to run the applications they like--for home consumers they buy
> computers to run games and financial management software like Quicken and
> whatever else they want/like. The things they want to do and the programs
> they want to run happen to be more available and often better on the
> Windows/Intel platform. Those who want to buy non-Intel (I'm writing this
> on an AMD processor for instance) and non-Microsoft (and I use Eudora as my
> preferred e-mail client because I like it) do so, just in smaller numbers.
>
> As to your assertion that "...millions of consumers were lied to, cajoled,
> intimidated and otherwise overwhelmed by unfair practices...", well what
> can I say Tod. I give consumers credit as fairly intelligent people who
> generally make informed decisions and choices.
>
> I am the leader of a couple of non-profit associations of hundreds of
> thousands of consumers responsible for hundreds of millions of dollars of
> purchases each and every year. I happen to think those consumers make
> informed and intelligent choices and I staunchly defend their right to do
> so. One of the reasons that these hundreds of thousands join our
> non-profits is to be able to get an independent, unbiased, professional
> source of information and support. We don't hate anybody and are very
> supportive of good technology regardless of its source.
>
> There actually seem to be a lot of intelligent, otherwise well informed
> people on this list. If they were just a little less consumed with blinding
> hatred I think that they would be able to make more objective statements
> and decisions. It may well be that they would end up in the same place, but
> at least it would be less "hate-driven". This concerns me because most
> "hate-driven" groups that I know of in history have not been looked upon
> favorable in historical accounts.
>
> I'd feel more comfortable with people who are positive advocates for
> whatever their position is. Be an advocate for Sun, be an advocate for
> Linux, be an advocate for OS/2, be an advocate for Microsoft -- "whatever
> floats your boat." At least when you are an advocate for something you take
> time to really get to know it. This "I hate Microsoft" is fear driven from
> the unknown. I doubt if anyone on this list really knows much about
> Microsoft other that what they fear. I really feel that if they knew more
> about the company and their practices (not the imagined ones) that they
> would at least have a chance to see these issues in a more balanced light.
>
> The old axiom "We always fear most that of which we know least..." comes to
> mind frequently as I read postings to this list.
>
> Have a great day...
> Charles
>
> At 02:28 AM 11/9/97 -0500, moonwolf@earthling.net wrote:
> >** Reply to note from operator@essential.essential.org Sat, 8 Nov 1997
> 15:09:02 -0500 (EST)
> >
> >(excerpt from letter by Charles Kelly to NT*Pro people)
> >
> >> Millions of consumers have voted to purchase Microsoft
> >> products--almost always when other products (and often dominant and
> >> technically superior products) existed on the marketplace.
> >
> >
> >This is the line that always gets me. Please explain to
> >me why millions of consumers would buy a technically
> >INFERIOR product that does not have a significant
> >marketshare. These millions of consumers obviously
> >cannot be
> >
> >" . . . like me (C.Kelly) who are technically savvy and
> >really do understand both the issues and the economics."
> >
> >
> >Seems to me that these millions of consumers were lied
> >to, cajoled, intimidated and otherwise overwhelmed by
> >unfair practices into making the absolutely wrong
> >decision. Wht would anyone buy a technically inferior
> >product for their COMPUTER!
> >
> >
> >--
> >Ed
> >--
> >
> >Team OS/2
> >MoonWolf Enterprises
> >Edward R. Mortimer moonwolf@earthling.net
> >The Land of Beyond http://www.trailerpark.com/moonwalk/moonwolf/index.html
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