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Re: Moderately improved map of Microsoft tying evidence
- To: Multiple recipients of list <am-info@essential.org>
- Subject: Re: Moderately improved map of Microsoft tying evidence
- From: Tod Landis <landis@cruzio.com>
- Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 23:33:03 -0800
- References: <58532D5A7331D1118E670060971996F5035151@production.objectsoftcorp.com>
You've begged the real issue, which is control of
the OS, the compilers, the SDKs, the applications,
the browsers, and the servers. Tod
David E. Y. Sarna wrote:
> Note that customer pressure forced Microsoft to correct that error in
> Word.
>
> Regards,
> David E. Y. Sarna davids@objectsoftcorp.com
> ObjectSoft Corp. (NASDAQ:OSFT) http://www.objectsoftcorp.com
> 433 Hackensack Ave., Hackensack, NJ 07601
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tod Landis [SMTP:landis@cruzio.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 1997 9:48 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list
> > Subject: Re: Moderately improved map of Microsoft tying evidence
> >
> > The problem is that one vendor will dominate
> > the Desktop OS, the compilers, the SDKs, the
> > desktop applications, the Internet browsers, and
> > the Internet servers.
> >
> > The potential is there for that vendor to profit by
> > building in obsolescence. (One example I have in mind:
> > is that Word 97 files cannot be read by Word 95)
> >
> > Tod Landis
> >
> > David E. Y. Sarna wrote:
> >
> > > 1. What exactly is wrong with Microsoft relying on portions of IE in
> > > building Developer Studio?
> > > 2. Yes, the new Microsoft help tools are based on html. RoboHelp
> > (Blue
> > > Sky Software) has tools for creating this kind of help very easily,
> > or
> > > converting existing help files.
> > > 3. IE4 reads the new help files perfectly. The price is right
> > (free).
> > > What us the problem, exactly?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > David E. Y. Sarna davids@objectsoftcorp.com
> > > ObjectSoft Corp. (NASDAQ:OSFT) http://www.objectsoftcorp.com
> > > 433 Hackensack Ave., Hackensack, NJ 07601
> > > Tel.: (201) 343-9100 Fax: (201) 343-0056
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Dave Sieber [SMTP:dsieber@terminal-impact.com]
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 1997 3:06 PM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list
> > > > Subject: Re: Moderately improved map of Microsoft tying
> > evidence
> > > >
> > > > Hans Reiser wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > * Visual Studio requires MSIE to install (needs a URL to the
> > > > > original sjmercury discussion group posting, so that we can
> > > > > request affidavits)
> > > >
> > > > Well, this one is certainly true. Actually, the installation
> > program
> > > > informs you: "...setup needs to update or install Microsoft
> > Internet
> > > > Explorer components required by the Developer Studio InfoViewer".
> > If
> > > > you
> > > > click on "Cancel" at this point, the entire installation quits. If
> > you
> > > > click "Install", you get a message saying "Installing System and
> > > > Internet Explorer Components". Alas, instead of just "components",
> > you
> > > > get a complete installation of IE3, including an "Internet" icon
> > on
> > > > your
> > > > desktop and an "Internet Explorer" entry in your Start menu.
> > Perhaps
> > > > the
> > > > currently shipping version installs IE4.
> > > >
> > > > The real oddity is that InfoViewer (the online help and
> > documentation
> > > > viewer) used to work fairly well, but in the latest revision the
> > > > entire
> > > > help contents have been, for some unknown reason, converted into
> > some
> > > > form of HTML (but compressed and not accessable by any "browser"
> > other
> > > > than InfoViewer). It's far slower than the earlier edition, and
> > the
> > > > formatting is in many cases fouled up -- it looks like a bad rush
> > job.
> > > > Many negative comments appeared on MS's Developer Studio
> > discussion
> > > > group over the new "feature", which adds only the ability to
> > browse
> > > > the
> > > > web from within DevStudio (the integrated InfoViewer is supposedly
> > an
> > > > IE
> > > > window that appears within DevStudio). My favorite was from a
> > > > programmer
> > > > who declared that he didn't need or want "a web browser integrated
> > > > into
> > > > his compiler".
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Dave Sieber
> > > > dsieber@terminal-impact.com
> > > > http://www.terminal-impact.com
> > > .-
> >
> >
> .-