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Re: Moderately improved map of Microsoft tying evidence



  You've begged the real issue, which is control of
  the OS, the compilers, the SDKs, the applications,
  the browsers, and the servers.    Tod
  
  David E. Y. Sarna wrote:
  
  > Note that customer pressure forced Microsoft to correct that error in
  > Word.
  >
  > Regards,
  > David E. Y. Sarna       davids@objectsoftcorp.com
  > ObjectSoft Corp. (NASDAQ:OSFT)    http://www.objectsoftcorp.com
  > 433 Hackensack Ave., Hackensack, NJ 07601
  > Tel.: (201) 343-9100    Fax: (201) 343-0056
  >
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: Tod Landis [SMTP:landis@cruzio.com]
  > > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 1997 9:48 PM
  > > To:   Multiple recipients of list
  > > Subject:      Re: Moderately improved map of Microsoft tying evidence
  > >
  > > The problem is that one vendor will dominate
  > > the Desktop OS, the compilers, the SDKs, the
  > > desktop applications, the Internet browsers, and
  > > the Internet servers.
  > >
  > > The potential is there for that vendor to profit by
  > > building in obsolescence.  (One example I have in mind:
  > > is that Word 97 files cannot be read by Word 95)
  > >
  > > Tod Landis
  > >
  > > David E. Y. Sarna wrote:
  > >
  > > > 1. What exactly is wrong with Microsoft relying on portions of IE in
  > > > building Developer Studio?
  > > > 2. Yes, the new Microsoft help tools are based on html. RoboHelp
  > > (Blue
  > > > Sky Software) has tools for creating this kind of help very easily,
  > > or
  > > > converting existing help files.
  > > > 3. IE4 reads the new help files perfectly. The price is right
  > > (free).
  > > > What us the  problem, exactly?
  > > >
  > > > Regards,
  > > > David E. Y. Sarna       davids@objectsoftcorp.com
  > > > ObjectSoft Corp. (NASDAQ:OSFT)    http://www.objectsoftcorp.com
  > > > 433 Hackensack Ave., Hackensack, NJ 07601
  > > > Tel.: (201) 343-9100    Fax: (201) 343-0056
  > > >
  > > > > -----Original Message-----
  > > > > From: Dave Sieber [SMTP:dsieber@terminal-impact.com]
  > > > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 1997 3:06 PM
  > > > > To:   Multiple recipients of list
  > > > > Subject:      Re: Moderately improved map of Microsoft tying
  > > evidence
  > > > >
  > > > > Hans Reiser wrote:
  > > > >
  > > > > >    * Visual Studio requires MSIE to install (needs a URL to the
  > > > > >      original sjmercury discussion group posting, so that we can
  > > > > >      request affidavits)
  > > > >
  > > > > Well, this one is certainly true. Actually, the installation
  > > program
  > > > > informs you: "...setup needs to update or install Microsoft
  > > Internet
  > > > > Explorer components required by the Developer Studio InfoViewer".
  > > If
  > > > > you
  > > > > click on "Cancel" at this point, the entire installation quits. If
  > > you
  > > > > click "Install", you get a message saying "Installing System and
  > > > > Internet Explorer Components". Alas, instead of just "components",
  > > you
  > > > > get a complete installation of IE3, including an "Internet" icon
  > > on
  > > > > your
  > > > > desktop and an "Internet Explorer" entry in your Start menu.
  > > Perhaps
  > > > > the
  > > > > currently shipping version installs IE4.
  > > > >
  > > > > The real oddity is that InfoViewer (the online help and
  > > documentation
  > > > > viewer) used to work fairly well, but in the latest revision the
  > > > > entire
  > > > > help contents have been, for some unknown reason, converted into
  > > some
  > > > > form of HTML (but compressed and not accessable by any "browser"
  > > other
  > > > > than InfoViewer).  It's far slower than the earlier edition, and
  > > the
  > > > > formatting is in many cases fouled up -- it looks like a bad rush
  > > job.
  > > > > Many negative comments appeared on MS's Developer Studio
  > > discussion
  > > > > group over the new "feature", which adds only the ability to
  > > browse
  > > > > the
  > > > > web from within DevStudio (the integrated InfoViewer is supposedly
  > > an
  > > > > IE
  > > > > window that appears within DevStudio). My favorite was from a
  > > > > programmer
  > > > > who declared that he didn't need or want "a web browser integrated
  > > > > into
  > > > > his compiler".
  > > > >
  > > > > --
  > > > > Dave Sieber
  > > > > dsieber@terminal-impact.com
  > > > > http://www.terminal-impact.com
  > > > .-
  > >
  > >
  > .-