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Re: Orrin Hatch: Netscape vs. MS
- To: Multiple recipients of list <am-info@essential.org>
- Subject: Re: Orrin Hatch: Netscape vs. MS
- From: David Dunn <david.dunn@vc3.com>
- Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 20:03:43 -0500
- Organization: VC3, Inc.
- References: <FC53E537DBC5CE07852565460068DAB5.0068DB3B85256546@erra.vc3.com>
- Reply-To: david.dunn@vc3.com
Matthew Benjamin wrote:
>
> On the other hand, as a UNIX advocate, can you honestly say that
> Microsoft's IE for UNIX is comparable to Netscape Navigator 4.0.3 for
> UNIX? Navigator 4.0.3 seems to have some bugs left, but it runs on
> every major UNIX variant, including Linux.
No, I can't. In the UNIX arena NS is clearly superior and any
claims Microsoft makes for cross-platform compatibility are purely
vaporware. This is one of the reasons we tried to avoid being
MS-centric
in our development.
>
> More to the point, in my view, Microsoft's takeover of the browser
> market--as with other markets--has NOT been fair, or feature-based, even
> though IE 4 is now an impressive product.
>
> The first three releases of Internet Explorer were NOT competitive with
> Netscape, feature for feature, and major corporations announced they
> were standardizing on Netscape--until Microsoft announced they were
> giving their browser away free, while continuing to upgrade it
> indefinitely.
...
> The IIS giveaway has been far more damaging to the market than the
> browser giveaway, in my view, because the webserver market had
> previously been heavily dominated by UNIX, the major competitor of
> Windows NT.
It's hard to argue against the notion that the giveaway of a
technologically
equivalent (roughly) product has hurt Netscape. Similarly, the NT/IIS
combo
is damaging UNIX's hold in the web server market and damaging Netscape's
hold
in the NT web server market. It's interesting to note, however, that
web
servers and web browsers are included at no additional cost with the
base
OS of many commercial UNIX systems and have been for some time. So is
it truly
unfair for Microsoft to do the same?
Also, if you view the computing world from a web-centric viewpoint where
the
browser and the web server are simply the building blocks on which all
higher level
applications and functionality are built, then it is logical to conclude
that
the web browser and web server --should-- be part of the core operating
system.
It's my expectation that any client OS I buy, be it Microsoft's
or Apple's, Linux or Solaris, will have a browser bundled in it.
Similarly
I expect that any server OS I buy will have a web server bundled in it.
These are indispensible pieces of the compute environment, no different
then FTP or telnet clients and servers, and, as such,
should be included in the base OS package I buy.
David
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