Re: Evidence of tying

[Tod Landis <landis@cruzio.com>]

  We agree.  Freedom of choice is what we're talking about.
  
  At a recent Seybold Conference, Jobs said words to
  this effect:  "We looked at it, and we saw that Apple and
  Microsoft together own 100% of the desktop market".  Now
  that would be fine for me, if only Microsoft weren't in the
  browser business.  That 100% share is a problem.
  
  The problem is that if a vendor completely controls the browser
  side, they can drive for dominance of the server side, and from
  there to dominance of applications.  It has to remind you of
  Standard Oil and the benefits they derived from controlling the
  trains and barrel making.
  
  Tod Landis
  
  
  David E. Y. Sarna wrote:
  
  > Outside of Communist China, Iraq and similar places, software vendors
  > are not compelled to support - or not support particular platforms. If a
  > vendor chooses to stand on the tall shoulders of some other vendor's
  > software, which then becomes a prerequisite for its own, then that is
  > legal, proper, and probably smart. If it chooses to stand on a platform
  > which is buggy or annoying to the public, then the public won't buy its
  > software. If everyone felt as you did, then Cybermedia would be
  > motivated to change its policies. In the mean time, they probably
  > reduced their development costs considerably by relying on features of
  > IE and ActiveX, and I doubt that many besides you did anything but
  > cheer.
  >
  > Different strokes for different folks. Freedom of choice. It's the
  > American way.
  >
  > Regards,
  > David E. Y. Sarna       davids@objectsoftcorp.com
  > ObjectSoft Corp. (NASDAQ:OSFT)    http://www.objectsoftcorp.com
  > 433 Hackensack Ave., Hackensack, NJ 07601
  > Tel.: (201) 343-9100    Fax: (201) 343-0056
  >
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: Hans Reiser [SMTP:reiser@ricochet.net]
  > > Sent: Monday, November 03, 1997 3:48 AM
  > > To:   Multiple recipients of list
  > > Subject:      Re: Evidence of tying
  > >
  > > I don't know why it bounced....
  > >
  > > Please try again, I need to switch ISPs perhaps....
  > >
  > > claribba wrote:
  > >
  > > > I sent the following answer to Hans Reiser to reiser@richocet.net
  > > > The message was returned as undeliverable.  Maybe he can read it
  > > here?
  > > >
  > > > >Hans,
  > > > >
  > > > >I posted a couple of messages refering to Cybermedia's First Aid 98
  > > > requiring MSIE & ActiveX to be installed in order for the programs
  > > to work.
  > > >  It is sent on the install CD, reads your hard drive, and if IE is
  > > not
  > > > there you must allow it to be installed.
  > > > >
  > > > >Is this what you mean?  My understanding is that no legal action
  > > can be
  > > > taken in my dealings with Cybermedia because no harm was done.  I
  > > simply
  > > > returned the whole package.
  > >
  > > Did Cybermedia act independently without inducement from Microsoft? If
  > > so, then
  > > there is probably no case.
  > >
  > > > >
  > > > >If I don't receive a refund...then I could take action.
  > >
  > > The refund doesn't affect whether your desired trade of purchasing
  > > both
  > > Cybermedia and Netscape was restrained.
  > >
  > > > >
  > > > >I hope you get some positive responses to your proposal.  Sounds
  > > like a
  > > > good idea to me.
  > >
  > > Thanks.
  > >
  > > > >
  > > > >Claire Macdonald
  > > > >
  > >
  > >   Best wishes,
  > >
  > > Hans
  > .-