[Upd-discuss] internet root servers control: centralised Vs decentralised

[Adam Moran]

Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Michael Hart wrote:
> 
> Please remember that not everyone out there lives on the bleeding edge,
> and not everyone things anything that olde is out of date.
> 
> You'd be surprised at how much is overlooked, only found out later.

I agree. Like the Dream of Rhonabwy in the Mabinogion
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/5160

"In uncovering these stories we are like tourists to a culture that is 
foreign to us; we have to behave like visiting anthropologists and allow 
the people in these stories to behave in their own way without imposing 
our modern values upon their actions. It follows that the more we visit 
these stories and meet their inhabitants, the sooner we will understand 
them both." -- Caitlín Matthews

Echo & the Bunnymen

http://users.testers.mkdoc.com/2006/april/blackfish/bony-morony.ogg
http://users.testers.mkdoc.com/2006/april/blackfish/bony-morony-live.ogg

> On Wed, 19 Apr 2006, sandor wrote:
> 
>> It's about the internet..
>>
>> It's out-of-date by at least eight months..
>>
>> Michael Hart wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, Dean Anderson wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is somewhat old hat. The article you quoted is from July, 2005.
>>>
>>> Do you really think anything written over 9 months ago has no value?
>>>
>>> That really makes me wonder. . . .
>>>
>>>
>>> mh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> However, the nature of Root DNS makes it impossible to really assert 
>>>> such
>>>> control, since end users (well, ISPs and those who run there own 
>>>> nameservers),
>>>> choose which 13 root servers to put in their initialization files. 
>>>> If you
>>>> chooses a different set of 13 with same ~2600 DNS records that 
>>>> comprise the glue
>>>> to the top level domains, you get the same top level domains, but 
>>>> have different
>>>> group running the root servers.  There have previously been some 
>>>> alternate root
>>>> projects, but these are not widely used.  The ITU/UN/world doesn't 
>>>> absolutely
>>>> need to cooperate with ICANN. The ITU could simply setup root 
>>>> servers, and
>>>> publish their addresses.  Problems only arise if the two groups then 
>>>> diverge in
>>>> the selection of new top level domains. The new top level domains 
>>>> might not be
>>>> available everywhere.
>>>>
>>>> However, practically speaking, the question of who runs the root 
>>>> servers really
>>>> depends on how well they (ICANN and its subcontractors) run the root 
>>>> server
>>>> system. If they run it badly, they will have to change their 
>>>> practice or they
>>>> won't remain long as the operators.  There is some technical 
>>>> evidence that they
>>>> run it badly, and some evidence that they run it badly for their own 
>>>> financial
>>>> benefit.  And that doesn't even consider the political issues (new 
>>>> top level
>>>> domain names) that resulted in the movement to transfer control to 
>>>> the UN/ITU.
>>>>
>>>> Root DNS isn't rocket science, but it does require attention to 
>>>> details.
>>>>
>>>>         --Dean
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, Mashilamani Sambasivam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This article talks about possible
>>>>> decentralisation by UN taking charge of
>>>>> root servers.
>>>>>
>>>>> US holds onto key internet role
>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4640441.stm
>>>>>
>>>>> Masi
>>>>>
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