[Upd-discuss] !@!Public Domain & Eminent Domain

[sandor]

Yes.

    There is a strong momentum to privatize all things.

    All things public-domain are incompatible with capitalism.

    Before NAFTA, there was public domain real estate in the form of 
communal land. This form of non-ownership was outlawed by the 
'agreement' because NAFTA is economic in nature and so it can not 
conceive of land otherwise.

    It is quite reasonable to expect a person to apply what works for 
one thing to another - in the hopes it will work there as well. So the 
current model will always seek expansion..
    As long as advanced capitalism as the dominant social structure the 
public domain will be depleted.

    To contextualize and address these things free of distraction must 
be done outside of the economic viewpoint as the two are wholly 
opposing. One requires ownership to exist - the other's existence is 
most complete when there is a total lack of ownership..

    Also, a privatized society will always move twords a unification of 
resources (the rich get richer, the poor poorer) as resources (money) 
provide the means to gather more of themselves.

    I believe these are systemic characteristics..

    I think there will always be methods of exploiting the existing 
social structure - whether and/or how people choose to do so.. That's 
something else..
   
    Whether and how existence in a form of society effects its 
constituents is also something else.. How, and to what degree, does the 
form of society affect the choices of the people whose will it is meant 
to serve? What are the effects of immersement in a reducing, 
commodifying, competitive environment? At what point is structure 
dictating it's own design?

-sándor
   
Michael Hart wrote:

>
> Is it as obvious to you as it is to me that there is a link between
> the recents attacks on the public via eminent domain are related in
> a close manner to the recents attacks via the public domain???
>
> *
>
> What appears to be happening is an organized effort to deprive us the
> public of their rights, both in terms of property of the "real estate
> variety" and property of the "intellectual property variety."
>
> Powers that have been with the public since time immemorial now being
> diverted, inverted, perverted to give the state more power at expense
> of the public.
>
> This gives a whole new meaning to "The Tragedy of the Commons," as it
> moves from commonly held property to personally held property, each in
> the case of property rights that have been handed down from generation
> to generation longer than any of these goverment offices have existed.
>
>
> "At this rate, the more we work, the poorer we get!"
>
>
> Are the George Bushs the new Prince Johns?
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>
>
> Michael
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