[Upd-discuss] Google defies Europe, by Jean-Noel Jeanneney, Director of the National Library of France, Le Monde, 22.01.05

Zapopan Martin Muela-Meza zapopanmuela@yahoo.com
Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:37:13 -0800 (PST)


Google defies Europe, by Jean-Noel Jeanneney,
Director of the National Library of France, Le
Monde, 22.01.05
http://www.lemonde.fr/web/imprimer_article/0%2C1-0@2-3232%2C36-395266%2C0.html

Quand Google défie l'Europe, par Jean-Noël
Jeanneney
LE MONDE | 22.01.05 | 15h49

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FYI France: Google digital library vs. France?...
& vs. 
others?

The wonderful digital library news from Google --
that all the world's books are to be digitized --
has not been received  with unrestrained glee by
everyone. I've already tried, 
previously here, to suggest the worries of the
rare book community:  see this
FYIFrance ejournal's December 15 2004 issue.

Now comes another sceptic: from the world outside
of our "Anglo-Saxon" one... an "outside" world
increasingly and self-consciously so... He is
very upset, about Google's 
digital library plans, and the rest of us would
do well to listen.

Jean-Noël Jeanneney is president of the
Bibliothèque  Nationale de France: this is the
august position of "administrateur", once
occupied by Emmanuel Le Roy Ladurie and Julien
Cain, and  other luminaries over the centuries
before them -- individuals 
who, often against seemingly-insuperable odds,
built and  maintained the great library which was
the Bibliothèque du Roi, and  then the
Bibliothèque Nationale, and now has become the
BNF.

Jeanneney speaks for himself, in what he says
about the  Google digital library, but he is no
crusading journalist merely grabbing at a
headline. Google will be hearing from plenty 
of those, as well. But Jean-Noël Jeanneney heads
one of the  leading cultural institutions in the
entire "non-English-speaking  world".

That is a very large world, still, that 
non-English-speaking one.It includes Europe, also
Russia, also Africa and Latin  America; and yes
also Asia, the billions of information users who 
are there, too. "English-speaking" being a matter
not of  capacity but
of choice: for example very good English is
spoken in  India, but people there might rather
choose something else...

Does Jeanneney speak for them? No, he would not
pretend  this: he would disclaim representing
"Europe", even -- and pressed  to the point he
might say he speaks not even for his own nation, 
or even his BNF, but only for himself.

But the rest of us might do well to consider him 
representative, I myself believe, in many of his
remarks which follow  below: who else, to give us
blunt and honest advice, if not the  French? --
-- Jeanneney does not like the "crushing American
 domination"
which he senses in Google's digital library
project, he  says -- and would anyone else, among
the great institutions and  cultures which
populate the "non-English-speaking world"?

-- and he is suspicious, of what he pungently
labels, "research-for-profit, cloaked in the
appearence of  disinterest"

-- so in these two respects alone, then, digital
library developers everywhere might read, and
carefully consider, Jeanneney's
perhaps-representative and at-least-indicative 
and perhaps-very-influential remarks. 

The article appears in the January 22 issue of Le
Monde:

	POINT DE VUE
	Quand Google défie l'Europe, par Jean-Noël
Jeanneney
	LE MONDE | 22.01.05 | 15h49

	
http://www.lemonde.fr/web/imprimer_article/0%2C1-0@2-3232%2C36-395266%2C0.html

-- translations into English which follow here
are my own 
--

	"Google defies Europe", by Jean-Noël Jeanneney,
	president of the Bibliothèque Nationale de
France
	Le Monde, January 22 2005 (URL above)

"The risk, of a crushing American domination, of
the idea  of the
world to be held by future generations... "For
now, the news has attracted the attention of only
 librarians and computer scientists. But I would
measure the  significance of
this in cultural terms, and so in political
terms: this is enormous..."

-- additional discussion by the French, of their
BNF  president's remarks, also is easily viewed
in two locations --

	* Biblio-fr (French librarians. econference)
archive 	http://listes.cru.fr/wws/arc/biblio-fr
	(search on the thread "Re: faut-il crier haro
sur 
Google?")

	* Internet Actu - Fing - INIST/CNRS
	http://www.internetactu.net/?p=5810

-- Jeanneney says,

"Google is, as everyone knows, the premier search
engine  for guiding Internet users through the
immensity of the Web...  And it is first in terms
of sheer capitalistic weight: since its  listing
on the stock exchange in New York in June 2004,
it has  found and
it will continue to find an abundance of new
financial  resources.

"Therefore and thereby, on the 14th of December,
this corporation announced with great fanfare
that it has concluded  contracts with five of the
most celebrated and resource-rich libraries of 
the Anglo-Saxon world..."

-- the corporate and capitalistic and
"market-driven"  aspects of such a project, all
increasingly just taken for granted in  the US,
still are objects of great suspicion everywhere
else,  and US Internet developers need to
remember this --

"Contracts for doing what? For nothing less than
the digitization, within a few years, of 15
million works in  order to make them accessible
online... for free, for those which 
now are in the public domain, and in teasing
extracts for the  others
which still are under copyright, awaiting the
passage of  time..."

"They are speaking here of a total -- dizzying
statistic --  of 4.5 billion pages. The initial
reaction, facing such a  gigantic prospect, might
be pure and simple jubilation. Look how it  has
taken form, in such a short time, the messianic
dream  defined at the close of the last century:
all of the knowledge of the  world, accessible
for free across the entire planet. Thus true 
equality at last is established, thanks to
science, to the greatest 
benefit of the poorest nations, and of the most
disadvantaged  populations.

"But we have to look a little further into this.
Some great difficulties were born at the same
time..." -- the "value-free" and
magically-beneficial contribution  to
civilization of science, both Big Science and
small  science, also is not taken for granted so
often, outside of the US --

"Here we find the risk of a crushing domination,
by  America, of the idea which future generations
will have of the world.  No matter what the
immediate effect is of the Google 
announcement, the sheer exhaustivity of the
undertaking puts all this  beyond
our reckoning, from a humanistic point of view.
Any  undertaking
of this nature will require drastic choices,
among the  immense
variety of possibilities which it offers." 

-- I add here one of my favorite quotations from
Umberto 
Eco:

	"...the issue which gives me the greatest
anxiety of my
	life: the conservation of books... I am
terrorized by the
	idea that all the books which have appeared on
cellulose
	paper since the 19th century are destined to
disappear
	because they are so fragile... When I pick up a
Gallimard
	from the 1950s, I have the impression of having
in my
	hands a lamb being burned as a sacrifice...

	"We are confronted by a fundamental choice of
	civilization... _But who, what authority will
decide
	which books to retain?_ Plato and Dante have
known their
	periods of disgrace, although they have been
able to
	transcend the centuries...

	[emphasis added -- interview in _Le Nouvel
Observateur_,
	no.1406, 17-23 Oct 1991, an issue entitled, "No,
Imaging
	Has Not Killed the Civilization of the Written
Word: The
	Revenge of the Books", translation of the above
by me in
	the FYI France ejournal issue of Feb 15, 1993.
JK.]

-- for Jeanneney too says,

"The libraries launching themselves into this
adventure  certainly are generously open to the
civilizations and works of other countries.
Nevertheless: the criteria of choice will be 
heavily influenced -- even if we contribute
ourselves,  uncomplainingly, to the riches of
this project -- by a point of view which  is
Anglo-Saxon, with its specific approach to the
diversities  of human civilization.

"I remember our Bicentenary of the Revolution, in
1989,  when I was in charge of certain
celebrations. It was damaging and difficult for
the well-being of my nation -- for its image  and
for its own understanding of itself, of its past,
of events shining or shady -- that when we came
to our commemorations  we had to seek, in English
or American databases, recitals and
interpretations which were biased in so many
ways: "The 
Scarlet Pimpernel" crushing "Quatre-vingt-treize"
-- the valiant  British
aristocrats triumphing over the bloody Jacobins
-- the  guillotine obscuring The Rights of Man
and the brilliant contributions  of the
Convention. That experience was instructive, and
it  puts us on our guard.

"We should not forget, too, another aspect of
this work-in-progress:  in the ocean of the
Internet, where  everything can be found -- the
true along with the false -- the  process of
validation of the products of research, by
scientific  authorities and in their journals,
takes on an essential role.  Anglo-Saxon science,
which already is dominant in a certain number of
domains, will become over-valued, inevitably --
with a  crushing
advantage to English, over the languages of other
cultures, including those of other European
cultures.

"It will be said that we speak here not of
complete works, because those by definition are
not yet in the public  domain, but only of
extracts, for the protection of authors and 
publishers. But in fairness this publicity alone
will be  discriminatory, and
necessarily. Under the appearance of gratuity the
Internet  user in fact will repay Google, qua
consumer, as that  corporation lives 99% off of
publicity, and the project which it has
announced surely envisions a
return-on-investment. And  little ads in the page
margins and preferred links will lead to sales,
accentuating the imbalance."

-- and Jeanneney is careful to offer not just
defensiveness  but also a challenge, a
competitive one --  "Ever since the question
first was posed, following the 
second world war -- initially in film and then
generally in the  mass communications industries
-- the issue of the French  response to American
domination, as a matter of principle if not in 
outright reaction, has weighed upon all of our
originality here. A  first
response was protectionism, via a quota system,
in theaters  and then on the television. This was
a legitimate reply, and it  was partially
effective. But in the present case such a 
strategy would be impossible, given the nature of
the Web. There is  a second approach, though, one
which already has proven  itself on several
Websites: that of a counter-attack, one with an 
emphasis on cultural differences.

"In this matter France and her Bibliothèque
Nationale have  a special responsibility toward
the francophone world. But no European nation is,
we know, strong enough to undertake  such an
effort. I certainly would be the last to ignore
the efforts  thus
far accomplished: the digital library developed
by the Bibliothèque nationale de France under the
name of Gallica  -- which already offers 80,000
works and 70,000 images online,  and soon will
offer the fulltexts of the great French journals 
of the
19th century -- now is accessible, to the
plaudits of numerous researchers and citizens,
and it spreads our influence  throughout the
world. But it exists only through the subsidies
of the  French government, which are not
unlimited, and through our own 
BNF resources, which are assembled valiantly but
with  difficulty. Our annual expense is not even
a thousandth of the vast sum  announced now by
Google. The combat is unequal by far.

"Another approach is needed. And it can only be
deployed on  a pan-European scale: a Europe
determined to be not just a  market, but a
shining center of culture and political influence
 without peer around the planet.

"So the time has come for a solemn appeal. It
calls upon 
the
leaders of the Union, in its three leading
institutions, to
respond without delay -- for, very quickly, the
position 
will be
taken, the habits will be formed, it will be to
late to 
nudge
them aside later on.

"A multi-year plan must be defined and adopted
this year at
Brussels. A generous budget must be provided. It
is in 
providing
these public funds that we will give to our
citizens and 
our
researchers -- providing them as necessary
expenses and not 
as
consumer products -- a protection against the
perverse 
effects of
research-for-profit, cloaked in the appearence of

disinterest.

"It is only by relying on national government
initiatives 
that we
will prevent all of our archival photographic
collections 
from
falling into the hands of American corporations
(Corbis, a
subsidiary of Microsoft, already has taken things
far in 
that
direction). It is only by mobilizing specialized 
laboratories
that we will develop search engines as well as
software 
which are
our own.

"Everywhere one calls upon, nowadays, the urgency
of 
long-term
research and industrial development policies
which will 
assure,
in the face of strong global competition trends,
a pathway 
for
the originality which Europe can contribute:
well, here it 
is,
exactly -- this is the challenge which we must
confront. We 
can
do it, we must do it.

"* Jean-Noël Jeanneney, former secretary of state
for
communications, is the President of the
Bibliothèque 
Nationale de
France and of the association Europartenaires."


			--oOo--


Note:

Am I personally in favor of any of this, either
of what 
Google is
proposing or of what Jeanneney is calling for
here to 
combat it?

I do not see the two as opposed, myself -- I am
very much 
in
favor of both, in fact. It always has been as
Jeanneney 
himself
suggests, I believe: elsewhere in the above piece
he 
observes,

"All the experience of history shows that in the
past no 
new mode
of communication ever has been simply substituted
for that 
which
preceded it -- instead it complements the other,
often 
adding
value to both."

-- certainly Henri-Jean Martin suggests this,
too, and 
Elizabeth
Eisenstein confirms it, regarding "transitions in
media". 
People
still write, in spite of centuries of printing.
And people 
still
speak, and paint, and decorate their buildings,
in spite of
centuries of writing, so Hugo's "ceci tuera cela"
was an
over-statement. And no decades in history ever
have 
witnessed
such paper production and consumption, as those
now which 
have
followed the arrival, proclaimed a quarter
century ago, of 
"the
paperless library".

And this will continue, it appears to me. There
is room for 
both,
and more. The world still contains much
illiteracy: 
illiteracy
regarding the written and printed word, and also
illiteracy
regarding the visual world, and sound, and taste,
and 
multi-media
representations of all of these and more. Many of
us, on 
the
globe, still cannot "read and write", and all too
few of us 
can
really "see" or "hear".

 From Geoffroy Tory to Roland Barthe to Edward
Tufte, we 
have been
taught how little really most of us know of the
visual and 
many
other worlds of "texts". Most of us still are
discovering 
the
worlds of Bach, and of Rock and Rap. And all too
few of us 
really
understand "color", whether we are adept at
manipulating 
our
cellphones or not. And virtual reality developers
only now 
are
getting started on the richness & depth &
complexities of
multi-media representation.

And we need them all: because different people
communicate 
in
different ways, on different occasions: a
globalizing world 
so
devoted to "diversity", as the present one is,
can ill 
afford to
block off one particular communication channel in
favor of 
any other.

Should the approach be "combat", rather than
"cooperation"? 
Well,
cooperation does work better, sometimes. But an
old 
definition of
"trade" is "warfare by peaceful means". So
Jeanneney's
call-to-arms, in the above, to me gains much in
strategy 
and
tactics to balance its occasional
over-simplifications...

No there is not an "anglo-saxon world", as an
example of 
the
latter: Oxford and London friends long have made
clear to 
me just
how separate we in the US and UK are -- and when
they 
haven't,
other friends in Liverpool and Glasgow have --
and just 
when all
of that begins to look alike, at least comparing
it to 
places
elsewhere on the planet, recent social trends in
San Jose
California and in London's Brixton remind me of
just how
changeable the most settled circumstances may
quickly 
become.
I'll take Jeanneney or anyone else French on
tours of 
elementary
schools in California or in Greater London,
nowadays, and
challenge them to find anything therein easily
categorized 
as
being simply "anglo-saxon".

But Jeanneney knows this, I am sure. Modern
France is the 
same.
He is making merely a strategic and tactical
point, in 
asserting
his "us vs. them" of "Europe vs. 'the
anglo-saxons'". It is 
a
valid question, I believe, how one marshals one's
own 
troops; but
for some causes whatever it takes will do, and I
wouldn't
question his judgment on that.

My own position, then, is merely strategic and
tactical as 
well.
Qua American I ought to and in fact do welcome
the 
competition:
the "business of America" being "business"... If
France or 
Europe
or anyone else comes up with strong competition,
for 
Google's new
digital library model, I welcome that: it will
strengthen 
the
Google effort, and add value to the efforts of
all. If 
Europe
does come up with a market entry, I might even
buy some 
more
Google shares... that's "market capitalism"...

Qua strategist and tactician myself, though, I am
very 
concerned
that my own team might become short-sighted, too:
might not
realize what the others in the market -- what the

customers, in
fact, who always must be heard -- are thinking,
and doing. 
A
mutual misunderstanding problem... India and
China, for 
instance,
both might raise points similar to Jeanneney's
"Scarlet
Pimpernel" objections, above; or Vietnam and the 
Philippines
might do so -- and very justifiably in my own
view -- to
American-dominated digital library efforts.

So it is at least in that spirit that I translate
and 
publicize
Jeanneney's remarks here: US and other digital
library 
developers
all need to see, and consider, the whole picture
-- and it 
has
been my own experience, since the very invention
of the 
public
Internet, and certainly since the beginnings of
"The Web" 
and
"digital libraries", that digital development
tends to 
focus on
its own navel, on itself, and too often in
documents which 
have
been written only in English.

There is a bigger world out there. Here a leading
exponent 
of
that "non-English-speaking world" is presenting
his views. 
We
would do well to listen very carefully. He is
critical, and 
he
makes points which appeal far beyond our
pocketbooks, to 
opinions
and ideals of equality and diversity and fairness
which we 
hold
as dear as he does. There also is simply the
impoverishment 
of
our own effort, which would result from excluding
him and 
the
others. And there are more of him than there are
of us; 
and,
finally, they are at the very least "the
customers".

Together, albeit in competition, we and the
Europeans and 
many
others _all_ might fashion a better "information"
world, 
using
different digital library techniques which --
like the oral 
&
written & printed "word" historically -- do not
replace but 
in
fact will complement one another.

So, on the US listening once again here to the
French, 
perhaps
ironically it is as Kent warned Lear, about blunt
and 
honest
views being more useful than flattery:

	"thy youngest daughter does not love thee
least... see
	better, Lear."


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