[Upd-discuss] #3 More Copyright

John Howkins john@johnhowkins.com
Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:55:26 +0100


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This is a recursive argument, based on the use of the word =8Cworks=B9 twice.
Lots of people live off one single idea or achievement which, even if
copyrightable, produce value in other ways: eg, songs, artists/painters,
architects, fashion designers and software programmers.  Not to mention
people who live off patents.  Or people who have an idea, start a company
and live off that.  Or people who live in countries or at times when
copyright is weak or non-existent.  And so on.
John

On 28/9/04 6:37 pm, "sandor" <upd@sandor.net> wrote:

> Mmm,
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>     I don't believe that's actually correct.
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>     Anything for which you maintain a monopoly on production has this
> possibility.
>     Also - this ignores the concept of time-shifted resources. Once could=
 sell
> an item for a large amount, equal to the sum of the residual income.
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>     But I understand the sentiment would apply the question to any of the
> above means of achieving the same end.
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> Cheers!
> -s=E1ndor
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> Jsavirimuthu@aol.com wrote:
>> In a message dated 28/09/2004 17:34:06 GMT Standard Time, hart@pglaf.org
>> writes:
>>> Why are copyrighted works the ONLY way a person can
>>> make a living for the rest of his/her life with ONE
>>> single piece of work?
>> Interesting question Michael - this brings us to the idea of "open" and
>> "closed" models of production. But for Napster - would we have ITunes?
>> =20
>> Joseph
>> =20
>> Liverpool Law School
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<FONT FACE=3D"Verdana">This is a recursive argument, based on the use of the =
word &#8216;works&#8217; twice. &nbsp;Lots of people live off one single ide=
a or achievement which, even if copyrightable, produce value in other ways: =
eg, songs, artists/painters, architects, fashion designers and software prog=
rammers. &nbsp;Not to mention people who live off patents. &nbsp;Or people w=
ho have an idea, start a company and live off that. &nbsp;Or people who live=
 in countries or at times when copyright is weak or non-existent. &nbsp;And =
so on. &nbsp;<BR>
John<BR>
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On 28/9/04 6:37 pm, &quot;sandor&quot; &lt;upd@sandor.net&gt; wrote:<BR>
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</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana">Mmm,<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I don't believe that's actually correct.<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Anything for which you maintain a monopoly on produ=
ction has this possibility.<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Also - this ignores the concept of time-shifted res=
ources. Once could sell an item for a large amount, equal to the sum of the =
residual income.<BR>
<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;But I understand the sentiment would apply the ques=
tion to any of the above means of achieving the same end.<BR>
<BR>
Cheers!<BR>
-s&aacute;ndor<BR>
<BR>
Jsavirimuthu@aol.com wrote:<BR>
</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"><FONT SIZE=3D"2">In a message dated 2=
8/09/2004 17:34:06 GMT Standard Time, hart@pglaf.org writes:<BR>
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ighted works the ONLY way a person can<BR>
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single piece of work?<BR>
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question Michael - this brings us to the idea of &quot;open&quot; and &quot;=
closed&quot; models of production. But for Napster - would we have ITunes?<B=
R>
&nbsp;<BR>
Joseph<BR>
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