[Ip-health] Bill Gates:

Thu Apr 24 22:26:15 2008

Michael and all,

  I would make the same assertion.  So, Bill Gates, yet again
as a near master is flim-flam, again has used his well known
name to attempt to hood-wink the public.  He did a masterful job
earlier recently in his testimony in front of congress which
I saw with great interest on C-Span, and had them all eating
out of his hand.  Yet most of what he had to say, was pure
BS.  Typical Bill Gates.

  Yet, I am glad Jamie posted Bill's suggestion/nonsense. As
I am sure some, and hopefully more a more people will recognize
that Bill is now, as always, full of it.  Oh, and thank you
Michael for recognizing the same in you own scholarly way.  >:)
However I hope you and Jamie will excuse my more "in your face"
style.  I acquired my style in Gerry Spences legal boot camps,
and it has served me well...  >:)

-----Original Message-----
>From: michael.davis@law.csuohio.edu
>Sent: Apr 24, 2008 2:13 PM
>To: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
>Cc: michael.davis@law.csuohio.edu, james.love@keionline.org, ip-health@lists.essential.org
>Subject: Re: [Ip-health] Bill Gates:
>
>I feel absolutely safe in asserting with no fear of contradiction that
>there is no drug "invention" in which public funds are not involved, and
>to an overwhelmingly significant degree in each and every case. The myth
>of private invention is just that, and yet of course the patent system is
>premised on social facts that existed, if at all, only in the early 18th
>century when the system was initially conceived.
>
>MD
>> Michael, Jamie and all,
>>
>>   In that Bill has a significant investment in drug stocks,
>> it is no small surprise that he takes this possition.  Frankly
>> given his history, this argument he suggests is at a minimum,
>> disengenous if not intentionally misleading.  Ergo, I take his
>> remarks on many things with a huge grain of salt accordingly.
>>
>>   Certainly if any drug company invents any drug it should
>> be able to charge for them.  But if public funds are involved
>> in the development in those drugs invented, how much and under
>> what pricing circumstances becomes a matter of public interest
>> as well as public safty and health.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: "Prof. Michael H. Davis" <michael.davis@law.csuohio.edu>
>>>Sent: Apr 24, 2008 12:27 PM
>>>To: james.love@keionline.org
>>>Cc: ip-health@lists.essential.org
>>>Subject: Re: [Ip-health] Bill Gates:  "I think if you invent drugs, you
>>> should be able to  charge for them"
>>>
>>>What about if we ALL invent drugs as we do with all of them through
>>> funded research? Do we all get our money back? Do we all share in the
>>> profits? Gates is assuming a private sector in the most heavily
>>> subsidized area of our economy.
>>>
>>>
>>>Mickey Davis
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>>>
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>>>Cleveland State Univ. College of Law
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: James Love <james.love@keionline.org>
>>>Date: Thursday, Apr 24, 2008 3:01 pm
>>>Subject: [Ip-health] Bill Gates:  "I think if you invent drugs, you
>>> should be able to  charge for them"
>>>To: Reply-    james.love@keionline.orgTo: ip-health
>>> <ip-health@lists.essential.org>
>>>
>>>This is from a wired story two days ago.  Jamie
>>>>
>>>>http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/04/bill-gates-what.html
>>>>
>>>>The core problem seemed to intrigue Gates, who offered it as "a
>>>>paradox": If a drug company ever invents a treatment for something like
>>>>malaria, it'd be immediately beset by calls to give the drug away. "So
>>>>they choose never to work in those areas," he noted sympathetically.
>>>>"The current incentive system isn - t doing it."
>>>>
>>>>"I think if you invent drugs, you should be able to charge for them," he
>>>>said, adding with a shrug: "That may seem radical."
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>_____________________________
>>>>James Love, Knowledge Ecology International (KEI)
>>>>http://www.keionline.org, mailto:james.love@keionline.org
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>>>>
>>>>When everyone thinks the same, no one thinks.  Bill Walton remix of
>>>> Walter Lippmann
>>>>
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>> Regards,
>>
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>Mickey Davis
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Regards,

Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
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div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
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