[Ecommerce] Blogging WIPO's Development Agenda Meeting - Day 1
Thiru Balasubramaniam
thiru@cptech.org
Mon Apr 11 19:43:08 2005
Blogging WIPO's Development Agenda Meeting - Day 1
We're in Geneva at the World Intellectual Property Organization's
(WIPO's) first big meeting on intellectual property and the "Development
Agenda." That's right: the world's premiere IP-expansionists are
considering the radical proposal that more rightsholder protections
aren't always in the best interests of developing nations. Several
copyfighters have been taking collaborative notes all day inside the
cavernous main hall, and you check out the transcript after the jump.
Also see Pedro de Parangua Moniz's <a
href="http://www.direitorio.fgv.br/cts/">notes from today.</a>!
11 April, 2005
Notes by:
Thiru Balasubramaniam, thiru [at] cptech.org, Consumer Project on Technology
[TB]
Gwen Hinze, gwen [at] eff.org, Electronic Frontier Foundation [GH]
Ren Bucholz, ren [at] eff.org, Electronic Frontier Foundation [RB]
[NOTE: This is not an official transcript. Any errors or ommissions are
regretted.]
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[RB: This is the administrative portion, where leadership for the
meeting is formed]
Geoffrey Yu (WIPO): Proceed to Agenda Item two; nomination of officers
Jamaica: On behalf of GRULAC-we would like to nominate the Ambassador
of Paraguay.
Czech Republic: Second, and also nominate Bulgaria as vice-chair
China: We would like to support the nomination by the delegation of
Jamaica for Paraguay and Bulgaria is vice-chair
Geoffrey Yu (WIPO): Permanent representative (PR) of Paraguay is chair;
PR of Bulgaria is vice-chair
Paraguay (Chair): Efficiency starts off with brevity. Move to item 3:
adoption of agenda
Jamaica (GRULAC): We would like to add an agenda item on a substantive
report and an item on the inclusion of NGOs.
IIM/1/1
Chair: There is agreement among regional coordinators on having a
substantive report. There's also agreement among regional coordinators
on the accreditation of 17 NGOs at the first IIM.
[RB: Wow! This is great news - WIPO had initially indicated that groups
that aren't accredited wouldn't be able to participate. As a result,
EFF & other groups extended their delegation to include organizations
that have a lot to say about the developing world but had not yet
received accreditation.]
Jamaica: With that clarification we do not need an amendment.
India: The preparation of this document should be done before the end of
this session; then the delegations can comment to formalize final document.
Chair: The report that I will prepare will discuss future work. The
factual report that the IB will prepare will be transmitted to
delegations. I will prepare a seperate report on future work.
Argentina: We're not clear about the distinction between factual reports
and substantive reports? We agree that the chairman's statement's
report should not be binding; but "future work" report should be done
with Member States. C's report should be factual in nature.
Jamaica: This is an issue important with GRULAC. Important that the
substantive report on IIM report be adotped. If not enough time, on
wendesday it could be adopted at next IIM, But a factual report must be
produced.
Brazil: We would like to speak in the same line as the rep from GRULAC
and Argentina. We would like to follow usual UIPO procedure that IIM
conclude with a draft report. We read item 6 as "summary by chair" not
report, but it has no legal status. Item on future work is a
substantive isssue to be dealt with by countries. We want inclusion of
draft report. If there is a time constraint for adoption we would
sonsider a preliminary draft.
Chair: International Bureau secretariat will prepare factual report.
The report that I prepare will be the reflection of consutations with
delegations; it will deal with future work (item 5). Is this acceptable?
India: We are somewhat at a loss to grapple the nuance of your most
recent statement with respect to your previous statement given the
interventions of several delegations. (TB: What's the difference). For
example, adoption of WIPO report from last General Assembly meeting
still has to be adopted by Member States at the next Assembly because it
was reworked to add interventions of delegates and took several months
to appeaer on WIPO's website. However, it would be useful to put a
detailed summary before delegates to allow them to review it. That
should be done quickly when issues are still fresh in delegates' minds.
China: We are willing to support work of the Chairman.
Argentina: Probably don't need chair's summary; it can be reflected in
the report. We could include it in the agenda.
Brazil: I would like to include an adoption of draft report. Let us
stick with usual practice.
Chair: add new item 7 - adoption of draft report.
Italy (on behalf of Group B): Welcome decision on ad-hoc accreditation
of NGOs; but on the understanding that this should not be a precedent
and we will encourage them to apply for permanent acccreditation.
Legal Counsel (Edward Kwakwa): Named 17 names of NGOs who applied for
and have now been granted ad-hoc accreditation for the first IIM.
Item 4 - Substantive Proposals
Chair: Listed four proposals
Brazil (Group of Friends of Development - FOD): Highlight that this
document is supported by 14 Member States. Recall WIPO General Assembly
proposal. Development Agenda concerning ip issu
New document is not a subsitute for previous doucment but
complementary. It is lengthy. Not exhaustive document. Further
developt 4 aspects of our proposals from last year. All of the 14
countries have reserved the right to further elaborate on different
aspects.
It is both conceptual and pragmatic. It contains conceptual
elaborations-development concerns broaden ip system-broaden and
strengthen WIPO's role-give WIPO a more development oriented
focus-issues in this documents affect Southern constitutencies,
academics, NGOs. This document is a platform for substantive debate on
WIPO. This is why we welcome ad hoc accreditation of NGOs. Document
also contains concrete proposals-we welcome constructive engagement from
other WIPO Member States.
FOD-relationship between development and intellectual property. How is
development affected by enforcement and implementation of ip
agreements. We could work on a consensual outcome that we could forward
to the General Assembly. We resist attempts to fragmentize the
components.
Central element; broad perspective on relationship between IP and
devleopment. We seek to keep this proposal before the IIM. It is
important that this proposal be treated holistically; it's not
appropriate to separate out aspects of it, but we have broken it into
sections to allow for discussion of the 4 elements
1) Mandate and Governance-we support a more "UN" agency type role for
WIPO-We support openness and transparency - all voices should be heard
at WIPO, including IGOs and NGOs
2) Norm-setting: -development oriented benchmar Norm-setting should not
be seperated from development.
3) Technical assistance
4) Technology Transfer
We want this item to be permanently on the agenda at WIPO; we want this
to be cross-cutting-development should not be subordinated to a
subsidiary body.
Argentina (FOD): Second part refers to revision of WIPO's mandate and
governance. FOD believes WIPO's mandate can be clarified through an
amendment of a development dimension as part of WIPO's mission. Lack of
leadership on part of WIPO's member states on where DD should included.
FOD believes that DD should be incorporated into WIPO's programmes and
activities.
1) Create WERO (independent office)-independent and transparent
mechanism to evaluate programmes-similar programmes exist in World Bank
and other agencies-adopt measures to include NGOs-PAC and IPAC should be
determined by Member States
2) Norm setting-norms on intellectual creativity and technological transfer-
WIPO should pursue more balanced approach. Develop norms that reflect
development dimensions in all work.
We believe UK (IPR Commission)
This should be guided by guidelines:
Tech assistance should be based on devleopment provision-level of
development of each recipient state
Make full use of flexibilites
Remedy anti-competitive practices
3) Technical assistance should be neutral and non-discrimanatory
Tech assistance should be reviewed independently
Next GA should adopt principles we've listed in our proposal, should
establish database for website listing all tech assistancer
Seperate norm-setting from tech assistance
Commence work on indicators and benchmarks for evaluation
4) Technology transfer
See paragraphs 87,88 and 97 of our proposal for principles for tech
transfer and dissemination
Chair: other delegates should look at the FOD proposal and comment on
it. We had a belated start so no coffee .
USA: Paul Salmon (USPTO) US Welcomes full transparency of WIPO
proceedings. Support ad hoc accreditation for 17 NGOs but encourage
NGOs to apply for permanent obsevers. Simple procedure outlined on
WIPO's website. Outlined requirements - including must identify how NGOs
can establish that they speak for their members.
IP protection plays an important and positive role in development. IP
is only part of the solution. More needs to be done but not the domain
of WIPO-WIPO should focus on IP- UN does not need any new development
agencies.-WIPO's current legal structures - including the standing
committees - provide ample room to tackle development issues.
There is much support from WIPO from developed and developing countries.
We would not want to change WIPO if it risked their support.
We agree that IP is an important means of development. US paper is not
a rebuttal of FOD-it's not just about technical assistance. We have no
agenda to diminish WIPO's tech assistance. Our partnerhsip proposal
will allow WIPO to partner with developing countries and developed
countries and NGOs to create synergies.
There is a need for better co-ordination of development resources. WIPO
tech assistance should be more relevant and meaningful to the needs of
DCs and LDCs.
Mexico: IP is a tool for economic development. We recognize the work
already being done by other agencies but it is necessary to supplement
for promoting IP.Lack of knowledge of the IP system has sometimes
generated tensions in developing countries. Our proposal seeks to have
WIPO disseminate information on IP system but we don't support the
creation of new bodies for development. That won't achieve the goal of
streamlining WIPO's activities.
UK:We welcome the spectrum and breadth of attendees at this important
meeting. The starting point for our proposal is that IP isa tool that
allows economic and technical development. The UK in 2001 took the
intiative of establishing the IPR Commission to investigate how IP can
be integrated with development because we believe that IP can lead to
sustainable economic and technical development.
Co-operation must be transparent and planned. We welcome the US and
Mexico proposals on these points. It must also be accountable - we have
read the FOD proposaland agree that it one model but not the only one.
We should not create other bodies but use member government's knowledge
of IP to facilitate tech transfer. We see technical assistance in a
broad sense. Technical Assistance should be demand driven and
transparence. Harmonization is not necessarily the enemy of development
if it takes account of differences in levels of development. Cornerstone
of UN/WIPO agreement is tech transfer.
Chair: opening floor to regional co-ordinators.
Singapore (Asian Group) :Supports FOD proposal; good basis for
constructive dialogue for IIM. Mainstreaming development dimension into
all WIPO's work is imperative, consistent with other UN bodies-IP is not
an end in itself. One size fits all approach not appropriate. -public
policy consideration-policy space respect-espically when developing
countries have obligations.WIPO tech assistance needs to consider costs
of IP not just benefits. Asian Group stands behind a balance
IP-stimulate creativity, innovation and research.
And in his role as Co-ordinator of ASEAN countries: -We work together
with WIPO - we established the WIPO - ASEAN Ambassadors annual dialogue
in 1993. We recognize and appreciate WIPO's work on development -
dialogue, business/ IP co-operation, national workshops aimed at
capacity building, thematic resource work.IP for development remains an
important objective of the Director General's vision. ASEAN looks
forward to step up cooperation with WIPO.
Italy (Group B) Happy to see so many NGOs seeking participation.
Important to remember that IP can serve as economic driver. UN
MIllennium Declaration has been part of WIPO's mission since inception.
Must look espectially at needs of developing countries. Time for urgent
stock-taking of WIPO's technical assistance-is it appropriate for
recipient countries. Need more research into country-specific IP work.
Could WIPO work with other organizations? Group B agreed in 2004 that it
would work with others. Adquately protecting IP is necessary to turn
ideas into useful work.
Jamaica (GRULAC): Congratulations on your elections. IP system is an
imporant part of National Economic Development. However, WIPO must
address concerns of developing countries at all levels. Mandates that
start with the increase of IP must take into account LDC needs. Doha Dev
Agenda, Sao Paolo Consensus, Monterey Consensus, Johannesburg
Consensus. DA is not just about technical assistance. Also
norm-setting. Recognizes steps taken by WIPO. Benefit of
Extra-budgetary resources but results sometimes can be unreliable and
unstainable (tech assistance).
Chair: Countries that wish to speak-Morocco, Czech Republic, China,
Pakistan, S. Africa, Boliva, Switzerland, Egypt, Iran, Niger, Nigeria
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Break
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Afternoon issues
Chair: to move things forward, we'll be talking to regional coordinators.
Brazil: we are concerned about this. Our proposal has 14 country
sponsors. We don't beleive it's possible to discuss substantive issues
with RCs.
Chair: clarification - will only be discussing procedural issues.
India: We are behind on substantive matters; regional coordinators have
limited mandates. Given shortage of time; it might not be efficacious
to set aside time to meet from this session. We would not advise to set
aside time; Member States do not delegate authority to regional
coordinators on substantive issues.
Morocco (African Group): We support in principle the proposal for
establishment of Development Agenda. It is ambitious agenda. IP should
not be considered an end in itself. Need to take account of different
levels of development, balance general public rights and
rightsholders.Faciliattion of tech transfer and capacity bldg.
Assessment of costs of implementation. It is incumbent on WIPO to
assist in tech transfer (Arti 7-8)-and in accordance with WIPO-UN
agreement.
We welcome the US proposal-reinforce tech cooperation activities of
WIPO. It assumes infracstructural access to internet. but digital
divide exists. Not all the oucntries have access. WIPO has shown
commitment (WIPONET).
Welcome Munich Group B comminique-para 3
Czech Republic (Central European and Baltic States): Thanks to Int
Bureaus for organizing mtgs. Want to underline importance of
strengthening IP for development for members of goup. Appreciate
assistance of WIPO in development-related activities. Providing tech
assistance and training, institutional capacity bldg but there is room
for improvement. Should have high level of transparency, and include
full range of participants. WIPO activities should meet concerns of
developing countries and meet needs of LDCs. IP is important tool for
development so long as takes account of different levels of development.
China: Devlt is Daunting challenges in the new millennium. Given that
WIPO is a UN agency has obligation to consider impact of IP on
development. WIPO shouldn't concentrate only on tech assistance. In
identiffying priorites and in norm-setting, WIPO should take account of
developed. Norm-setting should take account of real capacity for member
states; must be realistic, otherwise IP by itself insufficient for
development. China hopes that secretariat will provide member states
with highly transparent information as well as time to consider it, to
promote discussion and dialogue.
Benin (Representing LDC's):
We would like development to be incorporated into all programmes of
WIPO. TRIPS negotiations; IP should be made into a development tool.
Luxembourg (EU):
EU looks forward to take part in this debate. EU has always said IP is
not an end in itself. IP can help achieve the UN Millennium development
goals. Many factors play here environmental, social, economic
development. WIPO promotes IP in balanced fashion - this system of IP
cannot secure the developmentt goals.
Developing countries play greater role at WIPO. EU would like to make
some observations-Part 5 tech transfer-these agreements must stimulate
exchange of knowledge: "efficient tech transfer"
On Part 6 (of GFoD?): Implementation of IP rights-must contribute
economic, social and cultural benefit. Want to "encourage national
culture of IP"
Part 7: EU convived that strategic cooperation must be targeted. More
must be done in technical assistance. Technical assistance should be
appropriate to level of development and specific needs of countries.
Also, they fully embrace UK proposal.
Nigeria:
WIPO has given assistance and Nigeria has benefitted. Associates itself
with GFoD proposal.
South Africa:
Wishes to associate itself fully with Brazil & Argentina proposal [RB:
the Global Friends of Development proposal]
The development dimension must be incorporated into WIPO, and it must be
reflected in future treaties. Like many other international agencies it
needs to be guided by the broader development agenda of the United Nations.
South Africa believes that IP has an important role to play and WIPO has
a signifcant role to paly in ensuring that IP rules support
development. Our experience is that North-South activites have proceed,
but there is a loack of understanding of implcations. The GFoD proposal
calls for an independedent evidence-based impact assesment. Techincal
assistance can't be "technical assistance" can't be equated with
Development. The GFoD proposal explains our key points.
We won't support *any* formulation that views technical support as the
only method of development.
[RB: meaning that they also want to see technology transfer (moving
help, governance (reforming WIPO as an institution), norm-setting
(respecting locally appropriate policies)]
Bolivia:
Associates with statement by GRULAC - looking for proper balance between
interests of developed & developing nations
Supports push for NGOs to participate in this proceeding, and believe
that it will enrich the dialogue
Switzerland:
Congratulations on your elections. We give full support to the
statement given by Italy on behalf of Group B.
We have an opportunity today to have a discussions on the basis of 4
specific proposals on the role of IP on development. More than ever
before-my delegation is convinced that IP has a central role to play in
economic, social, cultural development
However, IP alone cannot provide entirety of the development of a
country and an end to poverty. To achieve this, each country must
undertake joint action.
Believes in: dev. of human resources, rule of law, stable economic
policies, application of rules that support competition
All the activities undertaken by WIPO on "development" are fully in line
with UN goals and within the specific terms of WIPO's mandate as a
specialized UN agency. We are surprised therefore to read that WIPO
must establish a development agenda; it already exists.
Believes that WIPO should simply work with other groups that already
exist to refine their current trajectory - wants a "pragmatic" approach
that examines outcomes
Delegation wants to examine these proposals in further detail to
understand the financial obligations these proposals may entail. We
look forward to play a constructive and active role in these deliberations.
Dominican Republic:
We would like to voice support the Group of Friends Of Development
(GFOD) proposal.
Discussion of 4 aspects in GFoD proposal - Dominican thinks this is a
very innovative and creative proposal. Would like to highlight
principles on technical cooperation. We Support the proposal to
separate the international secretariat from WIPO's role in norm-setting.
Proposes the creation of a new body with members from other UN
organizations. Will conduct evaluation and research on IP as tool of
development.
Chile:
One of the central purposes of gov't is to enhance individuals' ability
to actualize through access to knowledge. We need greater emphasis on:
flexibility & strengthening of agencies to review effects of policies
that expand rights
Proposals:
1. Establish permanent space for discussion of IPR - not just accepting
& expanding it
2. [RB: missed this one]
3. Form strategy for working with other agencies at the U.N.
On U.S. proposal, Chile expresses gratitude and agrees that it tackles
only one aspect of development. However, and contrary to what the doc
said, inefficient use of U.N. resources is likely to occur.
On Mexican proposal - grateful, but believe that there should be broader
mandate
- not just protection, but also exceptions & limitations, etc.
- shouldn't think that more IP is better for development
On UK - thanks, and believes that this is the kind of proposal & spirit
that they need
Canada:
Shares the view that IP is important
in both DCs & LDCs effective, balanced & flexible IP is important
WIPO's primary function is to provide IP expertise within the context of
the UN.
WIPO should reflect needs of all members, & note a positive response
from LDCs - In particular, must approach this in comparative & balanced
manner
Since resources are finite, should consider prioritizing concerns -
pragmatic proposals with outcomes should come first
Pakistan:
Congratulations on your election and that of the vice-chair. We
associate ourself with the statement of Singapore on behalf of the Asian
group. We also note the four proposals submitted (that's UK, US,
Mexico, GFoD).
The core issue at the heart of this debate is to ensure that IP system
effective policy space appropriate to their own level of development.
In particular flexibility-they should not be rendered inoperable by
multiple caveats
Other issues raised are not importance - for instance, discussing WIPO's
mandate is only important if it blocks discussion of "substantive"
issues (RB: discussing WIPO mandate would be a "sterile excercise" !?)
US suggestions should be seriously considered. Policy space should not
be considered in an abstract manner.
Three clusters of concerns
1) Impact of IP on prices of medicines, textbooks, educational software
and other essential goods
- sometimes priced out of the reach of the people
2) constraining effects of IP on technology - broad patents, length of
protection, pools, skewed licenses, lack of disclosure
3) misappropriation of TK - need prior consent, benefit sharing, etc.
Academic proposal on impact statements deserves much attention
Norm-setting should be conducted in an equitable manner. Shouldn't rely
on islolated enclaves to set policies that affect the group... Other
bodies moving away from that model
We should have further sessions of IIM to discuss these issues
substantively.
Egypt:
Congratulations to chair and vice-president. Egypt firmly believes that
development in all its forms is the only way to raise standards of
living for our people. IP is a component; it is not an exception from
this path. If we don't deal with IP from a development point of view
including a development dimension, standards of economic development, it
will lack one of its main targets. Egypt was one of the authors of the
GFOD proposal.
Let me affirm two basic topics (priority for Egypt)
1) The need to not have a narrow point of view of development in IP. It
is important that all parties concerned understand that the question of
promoting IP development aspect...it is not limited to quantatative and
qualitative aspect of technical assistance
2) The instruments which WIPO offers should incorporate IP but should
not be exceptions to development. Some of these treaties impose
constraints on developing countries. The development dimension should
be put on the core of all standards that WIPO creates. This cannot take
place unless we take into consideration elements which are noted in the
proposals contained in the FOD paper.
Hope that GFoD & other doc are deeply discussed to allow "continued
credibility of the WIPO process.
~End Day One~