[Ecommerce] The most ambitious user agreement

Manon Ress manon.ress@cptech.org
Tue Feb 10 15:02:04 2004


To be fair:  they're trying to comply with copyright laws that they show
are totally absurd.  They say they're looking for "better language" any
suggestions?

Jeff Williams wrote:

>Manon and all,
>
> Well it looks like I will need to avoid this web site entirely.  I shall
>also be recommending all of our members to consider doing likewise
>as well as avoiding doing business now or in the future with the
> Central Pacific Railroad or require in any contract or business
>with them, to rescind this egregious and "ambitious" user agreement.
>
>Manon Ress wrote:
>
>
>
>>FYI "the most ambitious web site user agreement of all time
>><http://www.cprr.org/Museum/legal.html>, from the home page
>><http://www.cprr.org/> of the Central Pacific Railroad Photographic
>>History Museum"
>>http://research.yale.edu/lawmeme/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1319
>>
>>Chek it out at: http://www.cprr.org/Museum/legal.html
>>
>>Some highlight":
>>
>>    "All other access, use, disclosure, reproduction, delayed use,
>>    reduction to human-perceivable form, printing, copying or saving of
>>    digital image files or other content, reformatting, file sharing,
>>    downloading, uploading, storing, posting, mirroring, archiving,
>>    recording, distributing, redistribution, repurposing, modification,
>>    rewriting, manipulation, creation of derivative works, translations,
>>    or products, licensing, sale, transfer, display, public performance,
>>    publicity, broadcast, televising, reporting, publication (in whole
>>    or part) or transmission whether by http, ftp, electronic mail or
>>    any other file transfer protocol, and whether by electronic means or
>>    otherwise, or use by other than individual scholars, or commercial
>>    use requires prior written permission of the rights owner(s) and
>>    payment of a fee, and severe penalties apply for theft and
>>    unauthorized publication, which is also a crime."
>>
>>    "You agree that your use of this website is *irrefutable*
>>    acknowledgment by you that you have read, understood, and agreed to
>>    each and every term and provision of this User Agreement . . . ."
>>    (emphasis added).
>>
>>    "You stipulate, warrant and agree that you will not . . . challenge
>>    or dispute validity of our copyright."
>>
>>    "The application of the United Nations Convention on the
>>    International Sale of Goods is expressly excluded."
>>
>>    "You are warned that computer viruses can be transmitted via e-mail,
>>    so the recipient of any e-mail should check it and any attachments
>>    for the presence of viruses."
>>
>>    "[Y]ou should print a paper copy of this User Agreement . . . ."
>>
>>    "Time is of the essence hereof."
>>
>>    "If you want permission, we sincerely hope that you don't get scared
>>    off by all this legalese and give up!"
>>
>>    "Telephone calls placed in disregard of the foregoing will be
>>    charged at two hundred fifty dollars per telephone call."
>>
>>    "Licensee acknowledges that 19th century images such as 3 1/2"
>>    stereograph albumen prints are of limited resolution and are
>>    generally degraded, containing various imperfections of image and
>>    mount due to aging, and damaged, including but not limited to
>>    foxing, spotting, chipping, cracking, abrasion, folding, tearing,
>>    gouging, emulsion loss, soiling, staining, glue streaking,
>>    discoloration, motion blurring, darkening, and fading (often uneven
>>    in degree over various parts of an image), and acknowledges that
>>    images rescanned or photoduplicated from the original as a result of
>>    its request may require additional processing or restoration."
>>
>>    "Additionally, in the event that your actions in violation of this
>>    User Agreement result in our being deprived of our exclusive rights
>>    . . . you agree to pay us liquidated damages in the amount of five
>>    million U.S. dollars . . . ."
>>
>>    "Please read this Legal Notice of Infringement which applies to you
>>    only if you have violated this User Agreement, or made any use of
>>    this website in any way not specifically authorized and permitted
>>    herein, in which case you acknowledge timely receipt hereof, which
>>    you agree is sufficient notice, at such time as you commenced
>>    violation of this User Agreement."
>>
>>    "You further assume the risk that certain historic subjects,
>>    accidents, attitudes, and stereotypes and descriptions or depictions
>>    thereof, some graphic, may prove to be disturbing and that warnings
>>    and rating filters relating to such content may be absent or
>>    ineffective."
>>
>>    "Access to or use of this website in any jurisdiction that does not
>>    allow the exclusion of implied warranties is strictly prohibited."
>>
>>    "You agree to immediately notify CPRR.org by e-mail of any errors,
>>    historical inaccuracies, technical problems, typographical errors,
>>    broken links, incorrect or missing citations, proprietary content
>>    included without required permission, or any other defects or
>>    deficiencies which you discover on this website . . . ."
>>
>>    "Force Majeuere: Additionally, in not in limitation of the forgoing,
>>    we shall not have liability for any failure or delay resulting from
>>    any condition beyond our reasonable control, including but not
>>    limited to illness, governmental action, or acts of terrorism,
>>    earthquake or other natural occurrences, labor conditions, or power
>>    failure."
>>
>>    The parties hereto agree and stipulate . . . that such images are
>>    not in the public domain, that this website is a compilation
>>    posessing originality with new material added, and that copyright
>>    law does not preempt contract law."
>>
>>    "In the event that you are a governmental entity, you waive
>>    sovereign immunity and further stipulate and agree that any use of
>>    this website or its content, except as permitted herein, shall
>>    consitute a taking requiring just compensation as set forth herein."
>>
>>--
>>Manon Anne Ress
>>Consumer Project on Technology
>>www.cptech.org
>>PO Box 19367, Washington, DC 20036
>>manon.ress@cptech.org, voice: 1.202.387.8030, fax: 1.202.234.5176
>>
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>Regards,
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Manon Anne Ress
Consumer Project on Technology
www.cptech.org
PO Box 19367, Washington, DC 20036
manon.ress@cptech.org, voice: 1.202.387.8030, fax: 1.202.234.5176