[Ecommerce] ICC Seeks U.N. Takeover While Excluding ICANN, U.S. Government from Meeting

[john bolk]

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Jeff:

That is of course a relevant question.  Quote from the ICC website:

ICC Commission on E-Business, IT and Telecoms

Chair:
Talal Abu-Ghazaleh (TAGI, Egypt)

Vice Chairs:
Kim Ambler (Boeing Company, US)
Joseph H. Alhadeff (Oracle, US)
Philippe Wintrebert (AT&T, France)

Boeing, Oracle and AT&T seem to be active i.e. they must support the ICC WSIS proposal to put ICANN under UN control.

Anybody that went to WSIS who knows more about this?  Does CPtech have a position on ICANN?

John



Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
John and all,

john bolk wrote:

> The really interesting thing about the ICC WSIS proposal is that
> ICC represents many big US companies such as AT&T, Microsoft, Boeing,
> Oracle, Verizon, AOL, etc.

How active are all of these companies in ICC though?

>
>
> With big US companies supporting the proposal to let the UN ICT Task
> Force take over ICANN's responsibilities it looks like things could
> change soon. Not sure I understand why a buzz org would like
> governments to govern the Internet though?

I don't think they do wand governments to govern the Internet.
Certainly
the USG doesn't want that either. However some back room deals that I
have
been told about seem to indicate that some large US telecom companies
are not happy enough with ICANN and don't want the USG to govern
the internet exclusively either.

>
>
> The proposal was stated again by an ICC official at WSIS today:
> http://businessatwsis.net/mainpages/position/policy/tag.php
>
> http://businessatwsis.net/mainpages/media/press/news.php?news_id=15
>
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
> John and all,
>
> I am not surprised to here of the unfortunate forcible removal of
> ICANN's
> CEO Mr. Twomey's removal form this UN ICC meeting. As ICANN has
> snubbed many stakeholder groups including ICC and INEGroup amongst
> many others form it's terribly flawed "Reform" process started by the
> former
> ICANN CEO Stuart Lynn, and finalized by Mr. Twomey. The much discussed
>
> and debated ICANN Cabel has led it to growing disdain on global
> basis.
>
> However all this aside, it is also obvious that from earlier reports
> that the
> US is not interested nor willing to consider a major Role of the UN or
>
> any UN agency to play a significant management role for managing
> the central aspects of the Internet, nor determine policy there unto
> pertaining.
>
> ICANN was warned time and time again of the "error in its ways"
> as far back as 1999, and either ignored such warnings unwisely
> or did not have the intellectual capacity by which to address these
> many and repeated warning adequately and as such has served
> to divide stakeholders/users rather than act as a catalyst to
> unite them...
>
> john bolk wrote:
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> > CircleID, Dec 09, 2003
> >
> > ICC Seeks U.N. Takeover While Excluding ICANN, U.S. Government from
> Meeting
> >
> > An organization which purports to be "the voice of world business"
> is proposing a de facto U.N. takeover of ICANN. The proposal by a
> senior official of the International Chamber of Commerce (ICC) would
> place ICANN under the U.N. umbrella and give a strong role to U.N.
> agencies and to various national governments, including those that
> suppress free speech and free enterprise. In a move of breathtaking
> arrogance, the ICC refused to even invite ICANN or U.S. government
> representatives to the meeting at which they are presenting their
> proposal. As reported here by Jennifer Schenker:
> >
> > "Paul Twomey, the president of the Internet's semi-official
> governing body, Icann, learned Friday night what it feels like to be
> an outsider. Mr. Twomey, who had flown 20 hours from Vietnam to Geneva
> to observe a preparatory meeting for this week's United Nations'
> conference on Internet issues, ended up being escorted from the
> meeting room by guards. The officials running the meeting had suddenly
> decided to exclude outside observers. Mr. Twomey's ejection may
> underscore the resentment of many members of the international
> community over the way the Internet is run and over United States
> ownership of many important Internet resources. Although Mr. Twomey is
> Australian, Icann - the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and
> Numbers - is a powerful nonprofit group established by the United
> States government in 1998 to oversee various technical coordination
> issues for the global network. Icann and the United States government
> are expected to come under heavy fire at the conference,
> which
> > begins Wednesday in Geneva and will be one of the largest gatherings
> of high-level government officials, business leaders and nonprofit
> organizations to discuss the Internet's future."
> >
> > Any proposal or process for overhauling ICANN's governance that
> excludes key stakeholders is a major step backwards for the goals of
> openness and transparency. Furthermore, for a business group to
> propose giving a strong role in managing the infrastructure of the
> international information economy to the United Nations, an
> organization best known for unwieldily, costly, ineffective, and
> unaccountable bureaucracies, is downright strange. Corporations that
> contribute to the ICC may want to reconsider how best to use their
> shareholder's resources.
> >
> > http://www.circleid.com/article/394_0_1_0_C/
> >
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Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
Pierre Abelard

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
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CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 214-244-3801




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