From superjicb@email.msn.com Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:45:15 -0800 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:45:15 -0800 From: superjicb superjicb@email.msn.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine in drinking water distribution systems Pat, You wrote: > Perhaps I misunderstand, but are you saying that Greenpeace and > other public interest groups should ignore valid scientific findings? > If so, that would seem to preclude our being perceived as either > credible or reasonable, don't you agree? I totally agree. I am not familiar with the findings that you referred to and their validity, but that does not mean that I doubt them. My point was that from what I've seen, a lot of the chlorine debate and a lot of the surrounding politics focussed on dueling perceptions more than science. And one of the two areas that is used the most to make environmental groups look the worst regarding chlorine issues, is water chlorination. It is easy for people on the other side of the issue who want to continue selling chlorine to promote the general impression that chlorine saves people from dying of cholera and that environmental advocates, if they could, would let people die rather than use chlorine. Similar logic was used by a poster last week when he said the WHO preferred DDT to malaria. Preferring chloirne to cholera is pretty much the same logic. I live in the Dallas area where lots of water chloirnation has been replaced by ozone, but not for residual treatment. If we now know that chloirnation is not needed for residual treatment, then great. > The fundamental issue is not whether or not we want chlorine to be > used for residual water treatment. It is that we want drinking > water that is free of pathogens and toxic chemical > contaminants. I trust that you will agree that this is an entirely > reasonable need, not a fanatical desire. The Canadian study > demonstrates that residual chlorine does not achieve pathogen- > free water and, based on numerous other studies, the treatment of > water with chlorine generates toxic chemical contaminants. Yes great. Certainly chlorine is a deadly toxic. If today there are alternatives to chlorine here, or if there is research showing chlorine does not do the job in pathogen removal, then drinking water free of toxics is the way to frame the issue so that it can not be used against you. I'm not familiar with these studies. Would you please send me the site reference again. Connie Hansson From Evertcc@aol.com Sun, 9 Jan 2000 16:57:17 EST Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 16:57:17 EST From: Evertcc@aol.com Evertcc@aol.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine in drinking water distr... Connie, I would be more interested in knowing about any contamination from the PVC pipe now used in many water systems than of the chlorination of the water itself. My other concern is the combination of chlorine and organic compounds to form triholomethane for example. I don't think that we can just look at free chlorine by itself. Carl From burnt_paper@hotmail.com Sun, 09 Jan 2000 23:11:26 GMT Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 23:11:26 GMT From: david bell burnt_paper@hotmail.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] "normal background level" Hi Connie >Have you had any experience working on environmental issues with >politicians? If "no politician can ignore the logic" then we wouldn't >still be discussing dioxin and incineration if I can try to paraphrase your line of reasoning, I think I would agree with you; I understand you to be agreeing about the value and utility of fact-based argument, but them dang' politicians are mighty slippery beasts ! >Run a CFCs time line versus a dioxin/incineration time line. My memory is >not perfect on this issue but I think the dioxin/incineration relationship >came to be know first. Why is it so far from being fixed ? >Also if you remember there were a core of >scientists that swore the whole CFC hole was a fabrication. It was just >because industry and environmentalists pulled together that the job got >done. I think I will vary with you here. My understanding, and it is fairly clear, is that there was an overwhelming scientific consensus that CFCs were a clear and present danger. I believe that there are reports from the National Academy of Sciences, etc. Scientific journals like Nature and Science were very clear on this, and while there was debate on the size of the hole, whether it was 'natural' or not, etc., it rapidly became impossible to state that the hole was a fabrication or, that CFCs were not plausibly involved. This was the basis for incredibly convincing argument. I think you are right about some of the practical problems which you raised about the difficulties of reducing dioxin emission, but for my money, I would point out to you that there is considerable lack of consensus about the 'safe' level for dioxin. For example, Canada and the UK have an Tolerable Daily Intake (for TCDD) 1000 fold bigger than in the US; the WHO limit is 100-400 x bigger than the US TDI. The point I am making (without taking sides !!) is that there is no clear scientific consensus. >I didn't get into the sedcore file as it would take download time and it >seemed from your statement that again they didn't tell you why the dioxin >was there to begin with. I do not know what industry was on these lakes or >where they were, but I'd bet that they had bleached paper mills on them. The stated aim of the papers was to find out about the 'background' level of dioxin contamination of the environment, rather than to look at pollution associated with particular paper mills. Nonetheless, you are quite right that there may have been paper mills there; I don't recall reading anything about that. Given the recent postings about production of dioxins from uncontrolled burning, it may well be that the level of dioxin in the 1800s largely stemmed from the incineration that the local populace undertook. It clearly wasn't the chemical industry. cheers david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From burnt_paper@hotmail.com Sun, 09 Jan 2000 23:32:35 GMT Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 23:32:35 GMT From: david bell burnt_paper@hotmail.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine in drinking water distr... Hi Carl >Connie, > >I would be more interested in knowing about any contamination from the PVC >pipe now used in many water systems than of the chlorination of the water >itself. PVC is long-chain, and essentially insoluble in water. Hence it has no toxicity. Vinyl chloride monomer is a good human carcinogen, but there is very little of it in PVC, it gets diluted out a lot, and you can detect the resulting cancer very easily. VCM gives cholangiocarcinoma in humans, and I am not aware in any variation in the rate of this rare human cancer. >My other concern is the combination of chlorine and organic compounds to >form >triholomethane for example. I don't think that we can just look at free >chlorine by itself. I guess you are probably aware that there is a massive ongoing debate around this issue. Some people argue that the (potential) cancer risk from tiny quantities of chloromethanes are significant. Others, that the public health benefits of chlorination vastly outweigh any cancer risk. There is a well-founded argument that the carcinogenicity of trichloromethane has a no effect level- and that the low levels in water are without significance. cheers david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From burnt_paper@hotmail.com Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:20:26 GMT Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:20:26 GMT From: david bell burnt_paper@hotmail.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine in drinking water distribution If I read the abstract below correctly, E coli is inactivated by residual chlorine throughout the distribution system. Given that E coli is a principal contaminant of sewage (and in turn the water supply system), and can be highly pathogenic (eg E coli 0157), this abstract can easily be used to make a case for chlorination of water supplies. I am not sure what to make of the abstract; viruses can be very difficult to kill, and (I believe) some clostridia have a spore, again making them very difficult to disinfect. I don't know that E coli isn't a much more representative bacterial pathogen than the others this abstract measures. david bell Payment, P. 1999. Can J Microbiol 45(10):709-15 Abstract To evaluate the inactivating power of residual chlorine in a distribution system, test microorganisms (Escherichia coli, Clostridium perfringens, bacteriophage phi-X 170, and poliovirus type 1) were added to drinking water samples obtained from two water treatment plants and their distribution system. Except for Escherichia coli, microorganisms remained relatively unaffected in water from the distribution systems tested. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From superjicb@email.msn.com Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:44:20 -0800 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:44:20 -0800 From: superjicb superjicb@email.msn.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] "normal background level" David, I daresay that you are unlikely to find anyone on this board that does not support sound science. I consider it pure dribble that you even ask me this question. I recognize this question as a much over-used tactic to ignore science and logic by the person who asks it, when they find themselves faced with something they don't want to hear. Move on. Share sound science, instead of sharing the obvious notion that science should be sound. Also remember that because we are discussing science, that these issues are not always black and white. Think of your school days when you learned about hypothesis, theories, proofs and facts. I think that we would all agree that it is a fact that dioxin is a deadly toxin. I think that we would all agree that it is a fact that under certain conditions dioxin is created in incineration. I believe I could easily name a level of dioxin that none of us would be willing to ingest for any advantage, be it cheaper car panels, or a higher paycheck. What is in contention is how much dioxin we believe we can ingest over time before it kills us, and how much we are willing to risk that we've picked the correct number. The complication comes in because our willingness to take on risk is always balanced by expected rewards. Environmental advocates see little reward to taking on the risk, and can be expected to err on the side of caution. Industries that make mega bucks off of products that contribute to dioxin can be expected to err on the side of risk. > it rapidly became impossible to state > that the hole was a fabrication or, that CFCs were not plausibly involved. > This was the basis for incredibly convincing argument. Glad to see that you are not outright denying that there was a period that some groups pooh-poohed the need to move away from CFCs. I was there to read the published reports and they became so strong that at one point I remember wondering if the issue would go away. Part of my point was that industry, scientists and environmental groups all had reason to support CFC elimination. When most everyone's motives are in accord, things get done. > I think you are right about some of the practical problems which you raised > about the difficulties of reducing dioxin emission, but for my money, I > would point out to you that there is considerable lack of consensus about > the 'safe' level for dioxin. For example, Canada and the UK have an > Tolerable Daily Intake (for TCDD) 1000 fold bigger than in the US; the WHO > limit is 100-400 x bigger than the US TDI. The point I am making (without > taking sides !!) is that there is no clear scientific consensus. Thank you for acknowledging this distinction. I'll put my money towards erring on the side of caution. > Given the recent postings about production of dioxins from uncontrolled > burning, it may well be that the level of dioxin in the 1800s largely > stemmed from the incineration that the local populace undertook. It clearly > wasn't the chemical industry. Why is it clear chemicals were not implicated? Connie From burnt_paper@hotmail.com Mon, 10 Jan 2000 05:39:35 GMT Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 05:39:35 GMT From: david bell burnt_paper@hotmail.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] dioxin web sites WHO dioxin pages (they lowered the tolerable daily intake) http://www.who.int/fsf/dioxin/whoinf.htm Belgian government site on dioxin (and a link to the EU's report on Belgium) http://dioxin.fgov.be/pa/ena_frame.htm Australia's estimates of dioxin emission http://www.environment.gov.au/epg/pubs/pdf/dioxins.pdf http://www.environment.gov.au/epg/ic.html david bell ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From ttweed@wildrockies.org Sun, 9 Jan 2000 23:47:18 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 23:47:18 -0700 From: Tony Tweedale ttweed@wildrockies.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] follow-up TCDD cancer potency/TDI history; earliest refer. to dixon? looking through my files for the earliest refer's to dioxin, I discovered the whole of Dr Commoner's address to the 2nd Citizen's Dioxin Confer. from which a quote was posted here (about O-Cl's ocurance in nature). It mainly is about the controversy & fraud of TCDD's cancer risk. My post of a few days ago neglected the pre-Banbury conference portion of the story, and I recommend Commoner's speech to all. The landmark '78 Kociba et al. TCDD rodent assay (_Tox & Applied Pharmacol. 46:279-303 -- in which 100 ng/kg/d TCDD caused cancers in almost half the female rats, doses of 10 and 1 ng/kg/d were also given but I don't know the results) led to EPA's '85 TDI (estimated "safe" intake) of 0.006 pg/kg/d, for ambient water standard setting. [See 1980's Poland & Glover "A Model for the Mechanism of Action of 2,3,7,8-TCDD', published in the proceedings of the confer. "Estrogens in the Env.', ed. MacLachlan of NIEHS, which I think was published in _Env Health Perp's_, NIEHS' journal. This is an incredible (for 1980, as is the whole NIEHS sponsored conference) summary of the Ah mode of action of TCDD (which mechanism is cited by propnents & opponents of weaking the TDI, as it was by Commoner). This paper also shows that PAHs, tho binding to Ah, do not induce enzymes and proteins/do not get carried into the nucleus; but TCDD and various halogenated analogues to it (ie planar and 3 X 10 angstroms in 2-D size) do.] Commoner says a Dow scientist challanged the Kociba sudy and EPA's resulting '85 standard. The P&P industry's toxicologists borrowed the microscope slides to look for cellular signs of uncontrolled growth (cancer), and were split in opinion--resolvced by a vote (not a conservative aproach!) to reduce the cancer potency by half. Commoner then says EPA set up a Workgroup chaired by the Reagan AA for OR&D (Office of Reearchs & Develpmnt.), which came out w/ an external a draft review of the '85 RA in '87. They chose to AVERAGE the various cancer risk estimates -- -industry's and EPA/Kociba et al. (god scientific method!--as Comoner points ot, one or the other models is right--it's potent or less potent...). The Workgroup withdrew this estimate after external comment (incl. from Commoner and Tom Webster) and accepted the Kociba derived one; but finally ended up stating it may be an overestimate of risk and that the cancer potency was 16 X's less than the '85 estimate ("unencumbered by factual scinetific analysis", as C. puts it). These EPA and industry reviews of Kociba led to the '90 Banbury conference (sponsored by EPA and the Chlorine Institute, but it was industry's PR spinners who relesed a false claim that there was consensus at the conference that TCDD's cancer potency-->and other AH mediated effects--was indeed less potent). Pick up the story from that _Science_ news article I cited in my previous post on this (in sum, EPA agreed to review dioxin-like (TCDD-like) compounds once more, and--w/ fianlly opening the process to scientific review --ended up essentially confirming the Kociba study, setting the cancer TDI @ 0.01 pg/kg/d (relaxed from 0.06); but it also based risk on cumulative exposures and on all the dioxin-like PCDD/F/PCBs, and on non-cancer effects (as the stiill v. incomplete data allows). To me, this history shows the critical importance of supporting science and scientists. This includes letting them work, accepting their claims as possible, arguing from that basis, and encouraging openess (which incl's publication). Now if only industry's scientists would generally live up to this standard of openess! ---- Commoner also gives here the earlest refer. I have about the existance of dioxins or TCDD. He says 2 Atlanta physicians published in '36 in _Arch Derm. & Sypholology_ a case study of two Monsanto Anniston AL workers. One, "O.D., a Negro aged 26 [who] began work in the distillation of chlorinated diphenyl in April 1930." Diphenyl is the dioxin backbone--perhaps the plant was making DDT? Commoner writes: The patient had severe chloracne and even in Dec. '33 "complained of lassitude, loss of apetite and libido." "His complaint of lassitude was not borne out by anything nore than the usual temperament of the Negro towards work." [!]. Elsewhere I see the famous '65 Dow experiment of painting Pennsylvania prisoner's backs w/ dioxins (w/out consent or informed consent). In between, internal company (BASF, Monsanto, Dow, Hercules, etc.) dioxin studies, some studying accidents/explosions from the '40's & '50's) began seeing the light of day (reluctantly) by the early '70's, perhaps a bit earlier. Commoner, CEHJ's Carol van Strum (activist and USFS (Forest Svc) 2,4,5-T aerial victim), EPA's Bill Sanjour, Dr. Richard Clapp, the VVA (Vietnm Vets Amer.) and Chicago Media Watch (Liane Casten), inter alia, have compliled the record of early industry fraud and cover-ups on dioxin. Commonly, the exposed would be moved into non-exposed study groups, and vice-versa, in these company woker studies. All these reviews, incl Dr. Commoner's speech, are published in _Synthesis/Generation--A Magaz. of Green Social Thought_, Summer '95. Does anyone have any cites mentioning dioxins bewteen 1936 (or earlier!) and '65? --- Casten, Sanjour and elsewhere CCHW's (now CEH&J) Steve Lester (in their _Everyone's Backyard_:13:3), have also summarized EPA's reaction, butressing Commoner on the Kociba saga. V. briefly, EPA in '87 began considering industry's detoxifying claims. But in '90 EPA's Cate Jenkins alerted EPA's Science Adv. Board (SAB) about such fraud by BASF & Monsanto; SAB advised EPA continue to rely on the animal studies. EPA then investigated but dropped a crimminal investigation on the companies. VP Gore has heard and repeated (Oct '95) that every breath we take has 6-times the # of Cl atoms as before WW2... Tony Tweedale Causality is a concept not subject to empirical demonstration. -David Hume (1711-'76) Temperate but endangered planet. Enjoys weather, northern lights, continental drift. Seeks caring relationship with intelligent life form. -Friends of the Earth From ttweed@wildrockies.org Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:13:55 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:13:55 -0700 From: Tony Tweedale ttweed@wildrockies.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] more on EPA's proposed 300 ppt dioxin standard for sludge I received the below in reply to a querry about the safety of this proposed standard for dioxins in sludge. Late it came to me that this is obviously deliberate attempt by EPA Admin. Browner to enshrine yet another lax dioxin standard before releasing as final their Dioxin Reassessment, w/ its TDI (estim. safe dose) of 0.01 pg.kg/d (for a ligfetime cancer risk of 10E-6, or one/million). This TDI, we all realize, is 100 to 1,000 times more stringent than other proposed and existing ones around the world--plenty of reason for EPA to hold the RA and finaliize as many orders-of-magnitude too weak dioxin limits as it can get away with. The Med Waste Incinerator rule, other incinerator rules, the P&P "Cluster" rule are all examples of orders of maginutide lax dioxin standards finalized since the '94 External Review Draft Dioxin Reassessment. This speaks to me of infered yet clear economic corporate power and of their money in the Clinton Admin. The below goes well beyond my reply to the querry I received, in which I used the exposure asumptions (eg child's hand-to-mouth behavior) of ATSDR's current Interim dioxin soil exposure Min. Risk Levels (MRL's, used for initial screening of contaminated sites, for further action), but substituted the EPA draft TDI for cancer risk (0.01 pg/kg/d) for ATSDR's laughably-poorly justified TDI of 1 pg/kg/d. For ATSDR, back-calculating from this TDI leads to an action level of 1 ppb (1,000 ppt) dioxin in soil; using EPA's draft TDI (but same exposure assumptions) it leads to 10 ppt. Yet EPA wants to set a limit in sludge of 300 ppt! More pin-head politics trumping science and public health's prevention principle. Of course, you can't really assume that exposure to food grown in dioxinated sludge is identical to exposure from playing in dioxinated soil. Yet my initial thought is that more dioxin would be tranferred to you in the sludge->food exposure scenario. Please make your explicit thoughts known to EPA (see below, the sludge comment ends 22 Feb., but also let the Admin. know that we know she is squelching and playing GOd w/ public health (the Reassessment) and that we will hold her accountable, a/w/a whoever else is doing so). --- Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 13:54:17 -0500 From: "Caroline G. Snyder" To: ttweed@wildrockies.org Subject: [Fwd: EPA's proposed 300 ppt dioxin standard for sludge] -- Caroline G. Snyder cgsnyder@post.harvard.edu Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 12:17:50 -0500 From: "Caroline G. Snyder" To: Tom Irwin Subject: EPA's proposed 300 ppt dioxin standard for sludge In 1992, the Wisconsin Department of Health (WDOH) did a human cancer risk assessment for dioxin TEQ in agricultural soils. Using realistic and conservative assumptions, WDOH concluded that dioxin levels of 1.2 ppt in agricultural soil ( other than grazing pastures) and 0.19 ppt in soil of grazing pastures is protective of human health. Current Wisconsin sludge regulations specify a 0.5 ppt soil limit for pastures and a 1.2 ppt dioxin limit in other agricultural soil. On December 23, EPA's Office of Water proposed a limit of 300 ppt of dioxin TEQ for sludge that is land applied. EPA's risk assessment addresses only the human cancer risks; it ignores the many other serious health risks from dioxin, especially to children, and it does not address the dioxin risks to live stock or wildlife. The risk assessment appears to use unrealistic and non-conservative assumptions very similar to those that were used for the Round One risk assessment that led to the 503's ( Cf. Harrison et al, Case for Caution). For example, EPA's Office of Water uses deterministic point estimates for input variables, ignores synergistic effect on all levels, exaggerates dilution factors, underestimates erosion and dust exposure, underestimates surface water impact, greatly underestimates the consumption of beef and diary products produced on sludged pastures and underestimates the amount of soil/sludge ingested by grazing animals. Five singificant exposure pathways that impact human health, live stock, or wildlife, are not addressed because of insufficient data. Much of the recent dioxin literature appears to have been ignored. We urge you to write to EPA's Office of Water objecting to this proposed rule which will futher endanger human health, agricultural soil, live stock and the environment from land application of sludge. Such high levels of a potent, persistent, and bioaccumulative poison should not be spread deliberately on our land. The deadline for comments in midnight, February 22.. Mail: Part 503 Sewage Sludge Use of Disposal Rule; Docket Number W-99-18, Comment Clerk Water Docket MC-4101 US Environmental Protection Agency 401 M Street, SW Washington, DC 20046 For up-to-date information on dioxin's adverse health effects and for policy recommendations, see CCHW's recent repport at www. essential org/cchw/campaign/policy.html Caroline Snyder, President Citizens for a Future New Hampshire -- Caroline G. Snyder cgsnyder@post.harvard.edu Tony Tweedale Causality is a concept not subject to empirical demonstration. -David Hume (1711-'76) Temperate but endangered planet. Enjoys weather, northern lights, continental drift. Seeks caring relationship with intelligent life form. -Friends of the Earth From superjicb@email.msn.com Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:22:03 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:22:03 -0800 From: superjicb superjicb@email.msn.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Reply This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF5B4C.28327220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David, Your comment: > One of the interesting things is that erring on the side of caution = can have its costs. So currently, the US EPA estimates daily intake of = dioxin TEQs as 1-4 ng/kg, or 100-400 times greater than the EPA = recommended intake. It is not clear how one would get the level of = dioxin TEQ intake down by 400 fold; it would certainly be an expensive = undertaking. Some estimates are that it would cost in excess of the US = GNP to reduce dioxin intakes to the US EPA=20 recommended levels; clearly you would only want to spend that money if = there were to be a tangible benefit. My reply: One of the interesting things is that erring on the side of risk can = have is costs, both to human health, shorter life spans, and to the = economy in the form of high medical bills, lost productivity, etc. I = cannot comment on the validity of the EPAs numbers but plain old common = sense tells me that here we are not even talking about erring on the = side of risk. If scientists already think our dioxin intake is too = high, then we are talking about blatent disregard. This only makes it = more urgent that we move quickly to do what we can to stop from = increasing dioxin levels even further. The answer is not to throw up = our hands and give up. =20 Your comment: > > > Given the recent postings about production of dioxins from = uncontrolled burning, it may well be that the level of dioxin in the = 1800s largely stemmed from the incineration that the local populace = undertook. It clearly wasn't the chemical industry. My initial reply: > >Why is it clear chemicals were not implicated? Your reply: > There was next to no organochlorine chemical industry in the late = 1800s, and=20 > precious little in America. Compare with hundreds of millions of tons = of=20 > organochlorines produced in the 60s; as far as I am aware, there = wasn't the=20 > technology to make, transport or a market to sell a million tons of=20 > organochlorine compound in the 1800s. So where did the environmental = dioxin=20 > production come from in the 1800s? It still amounted to 10% of current = > levels. I guess I can only think of uncontrolled burning; all = suggestions=20 > welcome. My reply: I can come up with a reason other than uncontrolled burning that would = implicate chlorine. When we talked about dioxin in the late 1800s it = was related to the Beaver Lake dioxin in sludge study that you brought = to our attention. We all know chemical pulping occurs on large bodies = of water. I think we both agreed that the mid 1950s dioxin = contamination of this lake likely came from chlorine bleaching of pulp. = What is in contention is what occurred early on. Successful chemical = pulping began in about 1851 and to the best of my knowledge, pulp was = bleached with chlorine even before chemical pulping became the standard. = In the early 1800s British scientists already knew how to produce = chlorine electrochemically, but because electricity was so expensive = electrochemical chlorine production did not occur until the 1900s, and = in the 1800s commercial chloirne was produced by oxidation of HCl with = manganese dioxide or air. I expect we'd all agree that early pulping = and bleaching was done with nearly total disregard for the environment = (not intentional disregard, but because industry was likely unaware of = the problem brewing). I don't know the size of Beaver Lake, or how = many if any mills it supported, or if there was a chlorine plant on site = to support pulp bleaching, but logic suggests the whole thing is related = to pulp bleaching. You brought up this study as evidence of some point. = Would you please let us know what industry was on this lake and when, = so we can draw some intelligent conclusion from the data? Connie ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF5B4C.28327220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
David,

Your comment:

> One of the interesting things is that erring = on the side=20 of caution can have its costs. So currently, the US EPA estimates daily = intake=20 of dioxin TEQs as 1-4 ng/kg, or 100-400 times greater than the EPA = recommended=20 intake. It is not clear how one would get the level of dioxin TEQ intake = down by=20 400 fold; it would certainly be an expensive undertaking. Some estimates = are=20 that it would cost in excess of the US GNP to reduce dioxin intakes to = the US=20 EPA
recommended levels; clearly you would only want to spend that = money if=20 there were to be a tangible benefit.

My reply:

One of the interesting things is that erring on the = side of=20 risk can have is costs, both to human health, shorter life spans, and to = the=20 economy in the form of high medical bills, lost productivity, etc.  = I=20 cannot comment on the validity of the EPAs numbers but plain old common = sense=20 tells me that here we are not even talking about erring on the side of=20 risk.  If scientists already think our dioxin intake is too high, = then we=20 are talking about blatent disregard. This only makes it more urgent = that we=20 move quickly to do what we can to stop from increasing dioxin levels = even=20 further.  The answer is not to throw up our hands and give = up. 


Your comment:
> > > Given the = recent postings=20 about production of dioxins from uncontrolled burning, it may well be = that the=20 level of dioxin in the 1800s largely stemmed from the incineration that = the=20 local populace undertook. It clearly wasn't the chemical industry.

 My initial reply:
> >Why is it clear = chemicals=20 were not implicated?

 Your reply:
> There was next to no = organochlorine=20 chemical industry in the late 1800s, and
> precious little in = America.=20 Compare with hundreds of millions of tons of
> organochlorines = produced=20 in the 60s; as far as I am aware, there wasn't the
> technology = to make,=20 transport or a market to sell a million tons of
> organochlorine = compound=20 in the 1800s. So where did the environmental dioxin
> production = come=20 from in the 1800s? It still amounted to 10% of current
> levels. = I guess=20 I can only think of uncontrolled burning; all suggestions
> = welcome.

My reply:

I can come up with a reason other than uncontrolled = burning=20 that would implicate chlorine.  When we talked about dioxin in the = late=20 1800s it was related to the Beaver Lake dioxin in sludge study that you = brought=20 to our attention.  We all know chemical pulping occurs on large = bodies of=20 water.  I think we both = agreed that=20 the mid 1950s dioxin contamination of this lake likely came from = chlorine=20 bleaching of pulp.   What is in contention is what occurred = early=20 on.  Successful chemical pulping began in about 1851 and to the = best of my=20 knowledge, pulp was bleached with chlorine even before chemical pulping = became=20 the standard.  In the early 1800s = British=20 scientists already knew how to produce chlorine electrochemically, but = because=20 electricity was so expensive electrochemical chlorine production did not = occur=20 until the 1900s, and in the 1800s commercial chloirne was produced by = oxidation=20 of HCl with manganese dioxide or air.  I expect we'd all agree that = early pulping and bleaching was done with nearly total disregard = for the=20 environment (not intentional disregard, but because industry was likely = unaware=20 of the problem brewing).   I=20 don't know the size of Beaver Lake, or how many if any mills it = supported, or if=20 there was a chlorine plant on site to support pulp bleaching, but logic = suggests=20 the whole thing is related to pulp bleaching.  You brought up this = study as=20 evidence of some point.  Would you please let us know what industry = was on=20 this lake and when, so we can draw some intelligent conclusion from the=20 data?

Connie
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF5B4C.28327220-- From burnt_paper@hotmail.com Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:02:30 GMT Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:02:30 GMT From: david bell burnt_paper@hotmail.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Reply Dear Connie I think your suggestion that industry should be able to horse-trade with frank toxicity is both vile and odious. I don't see any place for any horse trading with industry in the regulatory process, nor for finding acute toxicity to be acceptable; risk assessment should protect human health. Any discussion about acceptable levels starts at a level below toxicity to humans. >I cannot comment on the validity of the EPAs numbers but plain >old >common sense tells me that here we are not even talking about >erring on >the side of risk. If scientists already think our dioxin >intake is too >high, then we are talking about blatent disregard The EPA's own Science Advisory Board rejected the conclusions of chapter 8 of the 1994 dioxin assessment, and their sole remit was whether the chapter was scientifically sound (Science Advisory Board. 1995. An SAB Report: A Second Look at Dioxin. Review of the Office of Research and Development’s Reassessment of Dioxin and Dioxin-Like Compounds by the Dioxin Reassessment Review Committee.). The US is unique in having a TDI for dioxin 100 times lower than the WHO, or Canada, or the European Union. cheers david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Jon.Campbell@MetraTech.com Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:30:29 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:30:29 -0500 From: Jon Campbell Jon.Campbell@MetraTech.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Reply Risk assessment is not protective of human or environmental health. Use = of the Precautionary Principle is the only way we will get ourselves out = of the industrial-generated mess in which we find ourselves today. For a frank explanation of the Precautionary Principle and why risk assessment is not protective, see Rachel's Weekly: #586 The Precautionary Principle, 19-Feb-1998 #519 Ethical Hazards of Risk Assessment, 07-Nov-1996 and for its application (or lack thereof) see: #541 - Bad Decisions Again And Again, 10-Apr-97 =20 #540 - History of Precaution, Part 2, 03-Apr-97 =20 #539 - History of Precaution -- Part 1, 27-Mar-97 Jon =20 -----Original Message----- From: david bell [mailto:burnt_paper@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 1:03 PM To: superjicb@email.msn.com; dioxin-l@lists.essential.org Subject: Re: [Dioxin-l] Reply Dear Connie I think your suggestion that industry should be able to horse-trade = with=20 frank toxicity is both vile and odious. I don't see any place for any = horse=20 trading with industry in the regulatory process, nor for finding acute=20 toxicity to be acceptable; risk assessment should protect human health. = Any=20 discussion about acceptable levels starts at a level below toxicity to=20 humans. >I cannot comment on the validity of the EPAs numbers but plain = >old=20 >common sense tells me that here we are not even talking about >erring = on=20 >the side of risk. If scientists already think our dioxin >intake is = too=20 >high, then we are talking about blatent disregard The EPA's own Science Advisory Board rejected the conclusions of = chapter 8=20 of the 1994 dioxin assessment, and their sole remit was whether the = chapter=20 was scientifically sound (Science Advisory Board. 1995. An SAB Report: = A=20 Second Look at Dioxin. Review of the Office of Research and = Development=92s=20 Reassessment of Dioxin and Dioxin-Like Compounds by the Dioxin = Reassessment=20 Review Committee.). The US is unique in having a TDI for dioxin 100 = times=20 lower than the WHO, or Canada, or the European Union. cheers david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Dioxin-l mailing list Dioxin-l@lists.essential.org http://lists.essential.org/mailman/listinfo/dioxin-l From superjicb@email.msn.com Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:06:06 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:06:06 -0800 From: superjicb superjicb@email.msn.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Reply David, Who are you? What ideas do you represent? Why are we not communicating? One minute I think you are indicating to us that dioxin levels are so high that there is nothing we can do about dioxin to reduce it to acceptable levels, and that anything we did would therefore just be a waste of money. When I let you know that I would consider this solution platent disregard for human health, and that we should stop producing dioxin immediately, you come back and call my suggestion vile and odious. Is this a bit of English comedy or are American and English different languages? Or what? I am totally confused. Connie > Dear Connie > > I think your suggestion that industry should be able to horse-trade with > frank toxicity is both vile and odious. I don't see any place for any horse > trading with industry in the regulatory process, nor for finding acute > toxicity to be acceptable; risk assessment should protect human health. Any > discussion about acceptable levels starts at a level below toxicity to > humans. > > >I cannot comment on the validity of the EPAs numbers but plain >old > >common sense tells me that here we are not even talking about >erring on > >the side of risk. If scientists already think our dioxin >intake is too > >high, then we are talking about blatent disregard > > The EPA's own Science Advisory Board rejected the conclusions of chapter 8 > of the 1994 dioxin assessment, and their sole remit was whether the chapter > was scientifically sound (Science Advisory Board. 1995. An SAB Report: A > Second Look at Dioxin. Review of the Office of Research and Development's > Reassessment of Dioxin and Dioxin-Like Compounds by the Dioxin Reassessment > Review Committee.). The US is unique in having a TDI for dioxin 100 times > lower than the WHO, or Canada, or the European Union. > > cheers > david > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dioxin-l mailing list > Dioxin-l@lists.essential.org > http://lists.essential.org/mailman/listinfo/dioxin-l From Ralph@tcpublications.freeserve.co.uk Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:22:55 +0000 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:22:55 +0000 From: Ralph Ryder Ralph@tcpublications.freeserve.co.uk Subject: [Dioxin-l] Reply > > There was next to no organochlorine chemical industry in the late > 1800s, and > > precious little in America. Compare with hundreds of millions of > tons of > > organochlorines produced in the 60s; as far as I am aware, there > wasn't the > > technology to make, transport or a market to sell a million tons > of > > organochlorine compound in the 1800s. So where did the > environmental dioxin > > production come from in the 1800s? It still amounted to 10% of > current > > levels. I guess I can only think of uncontrolled burning; all > suggestions > > welcome. Brief background info FYI: Herbert Henry Dow arrived in Midland in August 1890. He knew men had been pumping brine from the underground sea and evaporating it by heat from their waste lumber to make salt for dozens of years. Dow knew that Midlands brine was rich in bromine and had devised a way to separate this from the brine deposits using electricity. He founded the Midland Chemical Company and expanded this when he discovered the brine contained more chlorine than bromine. An hour after throwing the switch in his new chlorine plant it blew up. He refined his plans and with the backing of 57 investors 6 months later founded the Dow Chemical company in the spring of 1897. Bleaching powder was in high demand by the textile and cotton mills. Explosions continued at the plant and problems were to be found throughout the industry with some workers in the bleach chamber of Hooker Electrochemical Company (Niagara Falls, New York) quitting before the timekeeper had made out their cards. Dow chemical dumped its wastes out of the back door into the conveniently located Tittabawassee River. The Indians called it the 'Shinning river.' It soon lost its lustre. I have posted this recommendation before but will unashamedly do so again. 'Elements of Risk' The Chemical Industry and Its Threat to America. Cathy Trost, Times Books 1984 ISBN 0-8129-1114-8 cheers Ralph **************************************************************** Ralph Ryder Communities Against Toxics PO Box 29 Ellesmere Port Cheshire UK CH66 3TX Email ralph@tcpublications.freeserve.co.uk Tel/Fax 0151 339 5473 **************************************************************** From dhenshel@indiana.edu Mon, 10 Jan 2000 19:49:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 19:49:41 -0500 From: Henshel, Diane S. dhenshel@indiana.edu Subject: [Dioxin-l] Reply It seems to me the argument below could be settled with congener analysis. Since incineration produces primarily the PCDFs and relatively little TCDD, it should have a clear chemical signature very distinct from the chemical signature released by kraft pulp bleaching processes, in which there is a high percentage of TCDD contamination. Has anyone got the congener data? Your comment: > > > Given the recent postings about production of dioxins from uncontrolled burning, it may well be that the level of dioxin in the 1800s largely stemmed from the incineration that the local populace undertook. It clearly wasn't the chemical industry. My initial reply: > >Why is it clear chemicals were not implicated? Your reply: > There was next to no organochlorine chemical industry in the late 1800s, and > precious little in America. Compare with hundreds of millions of tons of > organochlorines produced in the 60s; as far as I am aware, there wasn't the > technology to make, transport or a market to sell a million tons of > organochlorine compound in the 1800s. So where did the environmental dioxin > production come from in the 1800s? It still amounted to 10% of current > levels. I guess I can only think of uncontrolled burning; all suggestions > welcome. My reply: I can come up with a reason other than uncontrolled burning that would implicate chlorine. When we talked about dioxin in the late 1800s it was related to the Beaver Lake dioxin in sludge study that you brought to our attention. We all know chemical pulping occurs on large bodies of water. I think we both agreed that the mid 1950s dioxin contamination of this lake likely came from chlorine bleaching of pulp. What is in contention is what occurred early on. Successful chemical pulping began in about 1851 and to the best of my knowledge, pulp was bleached with chlorine even before chemical pulping became the standard. In the early 1800s British scientists already knew how to produce chlorine electrochemically, but because electricity was so expensive electrochemical chlorine production did not occur until the 1900s, and in the 1800s commercial chloirne was produced by oxidation of HCl with manganese dioxide or air. I expect we'd all agree that early pulping and bleaching was done with nearly total disregard for the environment (not intentional disregard, but because industry was likely unaware of the problem brewing). I don't know the size of Beaver Lake, or how many if any mills it supported, or if there was a chlorine plant on site to support pulp bleaching, but logic suggests the whole thing is related to pulp bleaching. You brought up this study as evidence of some point. Would you please let us know what industry was on this lake and when, so we can draw some intelligent conclusion from the data? Connie From superjicb@email.msn.com Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:02:04 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:02:04 -0800 From: superjicb superjicb@email.msn.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Reply Diane, I don't have the analysis. Dave is the guy with information on Beaver Lake. I just didn't think we could draw any conclusions without more information. > Connie From ttweed@wildrockies.org Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:30:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:30:33 -0700 From: Tony Tweedale ttweed@wildrockies.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] follow-up TCDD cancer potency/TDI history From: "Henshel, Diane S." Re: >>This paper also shows that PAHs, tho binding to Ah, >> do not induce enzymes and proteins/do not get carried into the nucleus; >PAHS (once bound to the Ah receptor) most certainly do translocate to the >nucleus and induce enzymes, albeit not with the same potency as TCDD. There >is plenty of both enzyme induction data and mRNA increase data to support >this, in multiple species and in studies conducted by more scientists now >then I could list off the top of my head, well above a dozen or so. >Benzo-a-pyrene (a PAH) is commonly used as one of the standards against >which other EROD (a marker of P4501A enzyme activity) inducing-activity is >compared. ---- I in-accurately summarized the '80 Poland & Glover paper 'A Model for the Mechanism of Action of 2,3,7,8-TCDD'. On p. 338 they say: "We do not understand why nonhalogenated agonists for the receptor, eg PAHs and b-napthaflavone do not do not produce the characteristic spectrum of toxic responses produced by TCDD and its congeners. ...The ... [may] ... binds differently to the nuclear sites ... Alternately ... sustained occupation of the receptor and the long biological half-lives of the halogenated aromatic compounds ... In support of this latter possibility we have found that MC [a PAH] and b-napthaflavone will produce thymic involution, a response characteristic o TCDD toxicity." Sorry about the mistatement. Another cause was the author's distinction of "true induction, i.e. de novo protein synthesis.", tho even there (p. 335) they name several hepatic enzymes that both MC and TCDD induce. This paper is pretty amazing--this and much more that was known about the mechanism of toxicity, by 1980! Tony Tweedale Causality is a concept not subject to empirical demonstration. -David Hume (1711-'76) Temperate but endangered planet. Enjoys weather, northern lights, continental drift. Seeks caring relationship with intelligent life form. -Friends of the Earth From ttweed@wildrockies.org Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:57:39 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:57:39 -0700 From: Tony Tweedale ttweed@wildrockies.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] NTP solicits comments for scope of ED peer review [Federal Register: January 6, 2000 (Volume 65, Number 4)] [Notices] [Page 784-787] >From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov] [DOCID:fr06ja00-51] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES Public Health service National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, NIH; National Toxicology Program; Solicitation of Comments on Proposed Peer Review of Low-Dose Issues for Endocrine Disruptors SUMMARY: NTP is soliciting comments on the planned scope and process for a proposed peer review of studies bearing on the question of whether endocrine disruptors may cause effects at doses lower than are tested using standard toxicological testing procedures. Nominations for peer reviewers, as well as nominations for studies to be reviewed, are also being solicited. Results from the peer review will help the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (a member agency of the NTP) and, in particular the EPA's Endocrine Disruptor Screening Program, determine how to address low-dose questions in endocrine disruptor screening, testing, and hazard assessment. Background The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is implementing an Endocrine Disruptor Screening Program as required by the Food Quality Protection Act of 1996 (See 63 FR 71542-71568, Dec. 28, 1998). The EPA is in the process of choosing appropriate assays to use in this screening program and is also developing standardized, validated protocols for these assays. A critical aspect of protocol development is dose-setting. In recent years, there have been suggestions that hormonally active agents may cause effects at doses lower than those normally selected for toxicological testing. A review of the issue can be found in the National Academy of Science's recently-released report Hormonally Active Agents in the Environment (NRC [National Research Council]. 1999. Washington, DC: National Academy Press, pp. 103-111). The EPA has asked the National Toxicology Program to establish an independent panel of scientists to review the evidence related to low- dose effects and consider their implications for the development, validation, and interpretation of test protocols. If this Panel concludes that significant effects at low doses occur and that the standard dose-setting paradigm is inadequate to detect such effects, the EPA intends to pursue in a separate forum the question of how to test for such effects, including endpoints to be tested, dose-setting protocols and appropriate test methods. If the Panel believes the current data to be inconclusive, it will be asked to describe specific research that would resolve the ambiguities. Proposed Scope and Process for the review A. Scope of the Review Analysis will focus on interpretation of the major data sets showing or refuting effects at low doses. ``Low doses'' are defined for the purposes of discussion as ``doses below the currently accepted No Observed Adverse Effect Level for that substance''. The intent is to evaluate the presence or absence of low-dose effects in specific studies, then evaluate the likelihood and significance of these and/or other potential low-dose effects to humans. The main topic to be addressed is evidence for defining the shape of the dose/response curves for endocrine-active substances in the low- dos region. The review is expected to examine all evidence, including such things as relevant pharmacokinetic and mechanistic information, which may have a bearing on the low-dose issue. In order to come to disclosure on the central issue of whether there are sufficient grounds to change the traditional dose-setting paradigm for endocrine-active substances, it will not be possible to go into the details of non- central issues. Issues which may enter the discussion but which are not the central forcus and will not get exhaustive review include: --existence of inverted U-shaped dose/response curves as a general phenomenon in toxicology; --completeness of the list of endpoints examined in two-generation toxicity tests; --definition of ``adversity''. B. Selection of Studies for Review Given the breadth of the scope, many studies are likely to be considered relevant to the discussion. NTP proposes to divide studies into two categories: those which provide background information and those which hare critical to the resolution of the issue. Hard copies of both the background information and critical studies will be provided to the Panel in advance of the Peer Review Meeting. For the critical studies, principal investigators will be invited for in-depth discussions with the Panel, and the data sets from these critical studies will be subjected to independent analyses by the panel. NTP anticipates that approximately 10 to 12 studies might be designated critical. C. Criteria for Selection of Studies for Review Studies which provide direct evidence for the presence of effects related to the endocrine system at doses below the No Observed Adverse Effect Level will generally be considered critical. Studies which provide direct evidence against such effects at similar doses for the same chemical will also generally be considered critical. Studies which provide direct evidence for endocrine-related effects for chemicals for which NOAELs have not been established will generally be considered critical if there is reason to believe that normal procedures for establishing a NOAEL would set NOAELs at a higher level than those indicated by the study in question, as long as the difference in putative NOAELs would be due to dose/response considerations rather than to definitions of adversity or selection of endpoints for observation. Studies which provide direct evidence against effects at similar doses from chemicals for which such claims have been made will also generally be considered critical. Pharmacokinetic and mechanistic studies which provide insight into the plausibility or relevance of effects established in the direct studies may be either critical or background information depending on how closely they address low-dose issues. Studies of other endocrine effects caused by a substance for which a low-dose endocrine effect is established will be considered background information unless mechanistic information establishes a relevant relationship to the low-dose effect. In general, potency per se, is not a central issue. Studies which show effects at low doses but whose central issue in setting a NOAEL is either the definition of adversity or the completeness of the list of endpoints for which observations are made will not be considered relevant to the dose/response issues that this peer review will address. For background information, well-written reviews will be preferred over individual studies. Only studies or reviews which have been published in standard, peer-reviewed scientific journals or books will be considered. [[Page 785]] Critical studies must be accepted for publication in a standard, peer-reviewed scientific journal or book by April 1, 2000. Studies presented at scientific meetings but not formally accepted for publication in a peer-reviewed journal will not be accepted. Raw data for critical studies must be available for the Panel to review and analyze. ``Raw data'' includes data on individual laboratory animals, prior to aggregation by statistical or other methods. Data reported under Good Laboratory Practices, for example, will generally be considered ``raw data''. D. Selection Procedure An NTP interagency workshop organizing committee will choose the studies to be considered by the Panel. NTP recognizes that the date of acceptance for publication cannot be predicted with accuracy. Similarly, co-operation by principal investigators to include a study in this review cannot be guaranteed. For planning purposes, it may become necessary to designate certain studies as ``likely to be critical'' before April 1 and to treat them as if they will be examined at the Panel meeting. However, the criteria will be applied on April 1. E. Preliminary List of Published Studies To Be Considered by the Low- Dose Peer Review Panel The NTP has compiled the attached preliminary list of relevant studies and invites public comment on the list. F. Peer Review Panel Members A panel of 16 to 20 members is anticipated. NTP is soliciting nominations for the Panel from the public. (See Guidelines for Submission of Comments below). Kinds of expertise that are likely to be relevant include reproductive biology (male and female, whole animal and cellular), endocrinology, pharmacology, statistical data analysis, and dose/response modeling. Expertise need not be limited to these areas, nor will these areas necessarily all be included on the Panel. NTP will try to ensure an appropriate breadth of expertise across the Panel. If there are particular kinds of expertise that you feel the Panel should include, please provide a justification in your comments, especially if the expertise is not covered in the list above. Nominations should be accompanied by complete contact information, including name, address, institutional affiliation, telephone number, and e-mail address. Where possible, a Web page address for research interests and/or curriculum vitae should be included. To avoid the potential for candidates being contacted by a large number of nominators, candidates need not be contacted prior to nomination. NTP will solicit curricula vitae and interest in participation at an appropriate time. G. Criteria for Selection of Panel Members Expertise in a scientific field relevant to the low-dose issue is required. Investigators associated with critical studies will not be considered for the Panel. Principal investigators (or their designated co-authors) for critical studies will be asked to present their data and be available for discussion at the Peer Review Panel meeting, but will not be asked to be part of the Panel itself. H. Selection Procedure Panelists will be chosen after critical studies have been selected. An NTP interagency organizing committee will select panel members considering all nominations received from the public as well as nominations developed internally. All nominees will be contacted for interest and availability, and curricula vitae will be solicited from the nominees. Selection will be based on the CVs and accompanying information such as statements of research interest. Official invitations to participate will be sent out in approximately April of 2000. The final list of Peer Review panel members will be available to the public through the Endocrine Disruptor Screening Program's Interent Web site (http://www.epa.gov/scinpoly/oscpendo/index.htm). Panel members will be paid as consultants, and candidates will be required to disclose potential conflicts of interest. I. Subcommittee Structure NTP proposes to have Subcommittees of the Peer Review Panel examine specific aspects of the low-dose issue. Subcommittee topics will be determined after studies for review have been selected. Topics that may be appropriate for Subcommittees include: Data Analysis and Statistics Pharmacokinetics, Receptor Binding, and Modeling Effects on Males Effects on Females Comments on the appropriateness of having Subcommittees, and of the specific topics suggested, are welcome. Approximate Schedule for the Review A meeting of the Peer Review Panel is tentatively planned for late July 2000 in the Research Triangle Park, NC area. The entire peer review panel meeting will be open to the public, limited only by space available. Details of the meeting location, dates, and times will be announced at a later time. In order to meet this deadline, designation of critical studies will take place in March, with Panel selection to begin in the March/ April time frame. Between May and late June, the data analysis subcommittee will be asked to review the data on critical studies. Investigators may be asked to run analyses of their own data according to the specifications of the Data Analysis Subcommittee. Approximately four weeks before the Peer Review, this Subcommittee will have the opportunity to meet with the investigators by conference call (or, if necessary, at a central location) to ask questions and obtain additional data that might be needed in preparation for the Panel meeting. The findings of the Data Analysis Subcommittee will be made available to the full Peer Review Panel for discussion at the meeting. On the first day of the Peer Review Meeting, presentation from principal investigators for the critical studies will be heard by the entire Panel. Also, the Data Analysis and Statistics Subcommittee will present its analysis of the data to the remainder of the Low-Dose Panel. Principal investigators of the critical studies will be available for comment. On the second day, the remaining Subcommittee will meet separately for discussion. Members of the Data Analysis and Statistics Subcommittee will be asked to split up between the remaining subcommittees. On the third day, the entire Panel will reconvene as a group to discuss the deliberations of each of the Panels and to integrate the separate aspects into a report. Each of the Subcommittees, as well as the full Panel, will produce a written Report following the meeting, documenting the discussions and explaining reasons for the scientific judgments made. These reports will be submitted for publication in an appropriate peer-reviewed scientific journal. Reports will also be made on the NTP and EPA (Endocrine Disruptor Screening Program) Web sites. Public Input Solicited As described above, the NTP solicits comments on the scope and process for the review; comments on the NTP preliminary list of studies for review; the nomination of studies to be considered for review; and the nomination of peer review panel members. Comments, identified by docket control number OPPTS-42208A, [[Page 786]] must be received on or before February 22, 2000. Guidelines for Submission of Public Comments EPA will manage the record-keeping aspects of the Peer Review as part of the Endocrine Disruptor Screening Program. You man obtain electronic copies of this document, and certain other related documents that might be available electronically, from the EPA Internet Home Page at http://www.epa.gov/. To access this document, on the Home Page select ``Laws and Regulations'' and then look up the entry for this document under the ``Federal Register-- Environmental Documents.'' You can also go directly to the Federal Register listings at http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/. For general information about the Endrocrine Disruptor Screening Program go to http://www.epa.gov/scipoly/oscpendo/index.htm. The EPA has established an official record for this action under docket control number OPPTS-42208A. The official record consists of the documents specifically referenced in this action, any public comments received during an applicable comment period, and other information related to this action. This official record includes the documents that are physically located in the docket, as well as the documents that are referenced in those documents. The public version of the official record does not include any information claimed as CBI. The public version of the official record, which includes printed, paper versions of any electronic comments submitted during an applicable comment period, is available for inspection in the TSCA Nonconfidential Information Center, North East Mall Rm. B-607, Waterside Mall, 401 M St., SW, Washington, DC. The Center is open from noon to 4 p.m., Monday through Friday, excluding legal holidays. The telephone number for the Center is (202) 260-7099. You may submit comments through the mail, in person, or electronically. To ensure proper receipt by EPA, it is imperative that you identify docket control number OPPTS-42208A in the subject line on the first page of your response. 1. By mail. Submit your comments to: Document Control Office (7407), Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxics (OPPT), Environmental Protection Agency, 401 M St., SW, Washington, DC 20460. 2. In person or by courier. Deliver your comments to: OPPT Document Control Office (DCO) in East Tower Rm. G-099, Waterside Mall, 401 M St. SW, Washington, DC. The DCO is open from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m., Monday through Friday, excluding legal holidays. The telephone number for the DCO is (202) 260-7093. 3. Electronically. You may submit your comments electronically by e-mail to: ``oppt.ncic@epa.gov,'' or mail your computer disk to the address identified above. Do not submit any information that you consider to be CBI. Electronic comments may be submitted in WordPerfect 6.1/8.0 or as an ASCII file avoiding the use of special characters and any form of encryption. Comments and data will also be accepted on standard disks in WordPerfect 6.1/8.0 or ASCII file format. All comments in electronic form must be identified by docket control number OPPTS-42208A. Electronic comments may also be filed online at many Federal Depository Libraries. Do not submit any information that you consider to be Confidential Business Information. If you believe that relevant information will be overlooked because of this restriction, please consult the person identified under FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: James P. Kariya, Office of Science Coordination and Policy (7203), Office of Prevention, Pesticides, and Toxic Substances, Environmental Protection Agency, 401 M St. SW, Washington, DC 20460; telephone number: (202) 260-2916; e-mail address: kariya.jim@epa.gov. Dated: December 28, 1999. Kenneth Olden, Director, National Toxicology Program, Department of Health and Human Services. Attachment--Preliminary List of Published Studies to Be Considered by the Low-dose Peer Review Panel The NTP has compiled a preliminary list of relevant studies. The public is invited to comment on this list; suggestions for additions, deletions, and substitutions may be submitted. (See Section of this FR announcement on Guidelines for Submission of Public comments.) Submission of a complete copy of the journal article in which the study and its results are described is preferred, but a complete reference (authors' names, name of journal, volume, issue, pages, title, date) will be sufficient if the complete article cannot be submitted. Include a brief narrative explaining the reason for each addition, deletion, or substitution. Raw data need not be submitted at this stage. Studies which are as yet unpublished but which are expected to be accepted for publication before April 1, 2000 may be nominated. An abstract of the study describing highlights of the study (including species and strain, dosing regimen, duration of study, number of animals per dose, endpoints evaluated and, if available, results) must be submitted in order for the Selection Committee to be able to evaluate the likelihood that the study will be a critical study. 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[FR Doc. 00-228 Filed 1-5-00; 8:45 am] BILLING CODE 4140-01-M ------------------------------ From ttweed@wildrockies.org Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:12:16 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:12:16 -0700 From: Tony Tweedale ttweed@wildrockies.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] VF, VB Nominations for Listing in 10th RoC >From: NTP Mail >To: "'ntpmail@list.niehs.nih.gov'" >Subject: NTP UPDATE: Review of Nominations for Listing in the 10th RoC >Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:46:44 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Sender: owner-ntpmail@bobo.niehs.nih.gov >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: ntp@niehs.nih.gov > >On January 20 & 21, 2000, the NTP Board of Scientific Counselors' Report on >Carcinogens Subcommittee will meet to peer review the following nominations >for listing in the 10th Report on Carcinogens (RoC). The meeting is open to >the public and includes an opportunity for public comment. > >Background documents on these nominations are available at the >http://ntp-server.niehs.nih.gov/htdocs/liason/JanRoCMtg.html. The meeting >will be held at the Crystal City Marriott, 1999 Jefferson Davis Highway in >Arlington, Virginia. > >Nominations being reviewed: > >Beryllium and Beryllium Compounds > >2,2-bis-(bromomethyl)-1,3-propanediol > >2,3-Dibromo-1-Propanol > >Dyes Metablized to Dimethoxybenzidine (Dimethoxybenzidine Dyes as a Class) > >Dyes Metabolized to Dimethylbenzidine (Dimethylbenzidine Dyes as a Class) > >IQ (2-Amino-3-methylimidazo [4,5-f]quinoline) > >Styrene-7,8-oxide > >Vinyl Bromide > >Vinyl Fluoride > > >To SUBSCRIBE to the NTP Mailing List send mail to >ntpmail-request@list.niehs.nih.gov with >the word "subscribe" as the body of the message. > >To UNSUBSCRIBE, send mail to ntpmail-request@list.niehs.nih.gov with the >command >"unsubscribe" as the body of the message. > From ttweed@wildrockies.org Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:11:03 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:11:03 -0700 From: Tony Tweedale ttweed@wildrockies.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] PCBs-EPA seeks to update knowledge of their managemnt (tho the comment sought here pertains to whether that ICR would be a burden). -- Abstract: [Snip] To meet its statutory obligations to regulate PCBs, EPA must obtain sufficient information to conclude that specified activities do not result in an unreasonable risk of injury to health or the environment. EPA uses the information collected under the 40 CFR part 761 requirements to ensure that PCBs are managed in an environmentally safe manner and that activities are being conducted in compliance with the PCB regulations. The information collected by these requirements will update the Agency's knowledge of ongoing PCB activities, ensure that individuals using or disposing of PCBs are held accountable for their activities, and demonstrate compliance with the PCB regulations. Specific uses of the information collected include determining the efficacy of a disposal technology; evaluating exemption requests and exclusion notices; targeting compliance inspections; and ensuring adequate storage capacity for PCB waste. This ICR consolidates six separate existing ICRs that address PCB reporting and recordkeeping requirements, and includes additional or revised requirements resulting from a final rule amending requirements addressing the manufacture, processing, distribution in commerce, use, cleanup, storage and disposal of PCBs, published June 29, 1998 (63 FR 35383) (FRL-5726-1). Detailed discussions of the existing ICRs and how their associated reporting and/or recordkeeping burdens have changed as a result of the final rule are found in the supporting statement for the information collection that is the subject of this notice. ---- [Federal Register: January 10, 2000 (Volume 65, Number 6)] [Notices] [Page 1366-1369] >From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov] [DOCID:fr10ja00-35] ======================================================================= ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY [OPPTS-00284; FRL-6484-6] PCBs Consolidated Reporting and Recordkeeping Requirements; Request for Comment on Renewal of Information Collection Activities AGENCY: Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). ACTION: Notice. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- SUMMARY: In compliance with the Paperwork Reduction Act (PRA) (44 U.S.C. 3501 et seq.), EPA is seeking public comment and information on the following Information Collection Request (ICR): PCBs: Consolidated Reporting and Recordkeeping Requirements (EPA ICR No. 1446.07, OMB No. 2070-0112). This ICR involves a collection activity that is currently approved and scheduled to expire on October 31, 2001, but also consolidates six other existing ICRs. The information collected under this ICR will help EPA prevent the improper handling and disposal of polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) and to minimize the exposure of human beings or the environment to PCBs. The ICR describes the nature of the information collection activity and its expected burden and costs. Before submitting this ICR to the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) for review and approval under the PRA, EPA is soliciting comments on specific aspects of the collection. DATES: Written comments, identified by the docket control number OPPTS- 00284 and administrative record number AR-220, must be received on or before March 10, 2000. ADDRESSES: Comments may be submitted by mail, electronically, or in person. Please follow the detailed instructions for each method as provided in Unit III. of the ``SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION.'' To ensure proper receipt by EPA, it is imperative that you identify docket control number OPPTS-00284 and administrative record number AR-220 in the subject line on the first page of your response. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: For general information contact: Joe Carra, Deputy Director, Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxics (7401), Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxics, Environmental Protection Agency, 401 M St., SW., Washington, DC 20460; telephone number: (202) 554-1404; TDD: (202) 554-0551; e-mail address: TSCA- Hotline@epa.gov. For technical information contact: Peggy Reynolds, National Program [[Page 1367]] Chemicals Division (7404), Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxics, Environmental Protection Agency, 401 M St., SW., Washington, DC 20460; telephone number: (202) 260-3965; fax number: (202) 260-1724; e-mail address: reynolds.peggy@epa.gov. SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: I. Does this Action Apply to Me? You may be potentially affected by this action if you currently possess PCB items, PCB-contaminated equipment, or other PCB waste. Potentially affected categories and entities may include, but are not limited to: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Type of business SIC codes ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Manufacturing 20-39 Oil and gas producers 1311 Electric utility industry 4911 Line-haul railroads 4011 Telecommunications 4810 Refuse systems 4953 Trucking and warehousing 4200 Sanitary services 4950 Steam suppliers 4960 Hospitals 8062 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This table is not intended to be exhaustive, but rather provides a guide for readers regarding entities likely to be affected by this action. Other types of entities not listed in this table could also be affected. The Standard Industrial Classification (SIC) codes are provided to assist you and others in determining whether or not this action might apply to certain entities. If you have any questions regarding the applicability of this action to a particular entity, consult the technical person listed under ``FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT.'' II. How Can I Get Additional Information, Including Copies of this Document and Other Related Documents? A. Electronically You may obtain electronic copies of this document, and certain other related documents that might be available electronically, from the EPA Internet Home Page at http://www.epa.gov/. On the Home Page select ``Laws and Regulations'' and then look up the entry for this document under the ``Federal Register-Environmental Documents.'' You can also go directly to the Federal Register listings at http:// www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/. B. Fax-on-Demand Using a faxphone call (202) 401-0527 and select items 4073, 4074, 4075, 4076, and 4077 for a copy of the ICR. C. In Person The Agency has established an official record for this action under docket control number OPPTS-00284 and administrative record number AR- 220. The official record consists of the documents specifically referenced in this action, any public comments received during an applicable comment period, and other information related to this action, including any information claimed as Confidential Business Information (CBI). This official record includes the documents that are physically located in the docket, as well as the documents that are referenced in those documents. The public version of the official record does not include any information claimed as CBI. The public version of the official record, which includes printed, paper versions of any electronic comments submitted during an applicable comment period, is available for inspection in the TSCA Nonconfidential Information Center, North East Mall Rm. B-607, Waterside Mall, 401 M St., SW., Washington, DC. The Center is open from noon to 4 p.m., Monday through Friday, excluding legal holidays. The telephone number for the Center is (202) 260-7099. III. How Can I Respond to this Action? A. How and to Whom Do I Submit the Comments? You may submit comments through the mail, in person, or electronically. To ensure proper receipt by EPA, it is imperative that you identify docket control number OPPTS-00284 and administrative record number AR-220 on the subject line on the first page of your response. 1. By mail. Submit your comments to: Document Control Office (7407), Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxics (OPPT), Environmental Protection Agency, 401 M St., SW., Washington, DC 20460. 2. In person or by courier. Deliver your comments to: OPPT Document Control Office (DCO) in East Tower Rm. G-099, Waterside Mall, 401 M St., SW., Washington, DC. The DCO is open from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m., Monday through Friday, excluding legal holidays. The telephone number for the DCO is (202) 260-7093. 3. Electronically. Submit your comments and/or data electronically by e-mail to: ``oppt.ncic@epa.gov,'' or mail your computer disk to the address identified in Units III.A.1. and 2. Do not submit any information electronically that you consider to be CBI. Electronic comments must be submitted as an ASCII file avoiding the use of special characters and any form of encryption. Comments and data will also be accepted on standard disks in WordPerfect 6.1/8.0 or ASCII file format. All comments in electronic form must be identified by docket control number OPPTS-00284 and administrative record number AR-220. Electronic comments may also be filed online at many Federal Depository Libraries. B. How Should I Handle CBI that I Want to Submit to the Agency? Do not submit any information electronically that you consider to be CBI. You may claim information that you submit to EPA in response to this document as CBI by marking any part or all of that information as CBI. Information so marked will not be disclosed except in accordance with procedures set forth in 40 CFR part 2. In addition to one complete version of the comment that includes any information claimed as CBI, a copy of the comment that does not contain the information claimed as CBI must be submitted for inclusion in the public version of the official record. Information not marked confidential will be included in the public version of the official record without prior notice. If you have any questions about CBI or the procedures for claiming CBI, please consult the technical person identified under ``FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT.'' C. What Should I Consider when I Prepare My Comments for EPA? You may find the following suggestions helpful for preparing your comments: 1. Explain your views as clearly as possible. 2. Describe any assumptions that you used. 3. Provide copies of any technical information and/or data you used that support your views. 4. If you estimate potential burden or costs, explain how you arrived at the estimate that you provide. 5. Provide specific examples to illustrate your concerns. 6. Offer alternative ways to improve the collection activity. 7. Make sure to submit your comments by the deadline in this notice. 8. To ensure proper receipt by EPA, be sure to identify the docket control number and administrative record number assigned to this action in the [[Page 1368]] subject line on the first page of your response. You may also provide the name, date, and Federal Register citation. D. What Information is EPA Particularly Interested in? Pursuant to section 3506(c)(2)(A) of the Paperwork Reduction Act (PRA), EPA specifically solicits comments and information to enable it to: 1. Evaluate whether the proposed collections of information are necessary for the proper performance of the functions of the Agency, including whether the information will have practical utility. 2. Evaluate the accuracy of the Agency's estimates of the burdens of the proposed collections of information. 3. Enhance the quality, utility, and clarity of the information to be collected. 4. Minimize the burden of the collections of information on those who are to respond, including through the use of appropriate automated or electronic collection technologies or other forms of information technology, e.g., permitting electronic submission of responses. IV. What Information Collection Activity or ICR Does this Action Apply to? EPA is seeking comments on the following ICR: Title: PCBs: Consolidated Reporting and Recordkeeping Requirements. ICR numbers: EPA ICR No. 1446.07, OMB No. 2070-0112. ICR status: This specific ICR is currently scheduled to expire on October 31, 2001; note, however, that this ICR is a consolidation of six separate existing ICRs that are scheduled to expire between February 28, 2000 and October 31, 2001. These ICRs are identified and discussed in the supporting statement for the subject information collection. An Agency may not conduct or sponsor, and a person is not required to respond to, a collection of information, unless it displays a currently valid OMB control number. The OMB control numbers for EPA's information collections appear on the collection instruments or instructions, in the Federal Register notices for related rulemakings and ICR notices, and, if the collection is contained in a regulation, in a table of OMB approval numbers in 40 CFR part 9. Abstract: Section 6(e)(1) of the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA), 15 U.S.C. 2605(e), directs EPA to regulate the marking and disposal of PCBs. Section 6(e)(2) bans the manufacturing, processing, distribution in commerce, and use of PCBs in other than a totally enclosed manner. Section 6(e)(3) establishes a process for obtaining exemptions from the prohibitions on the manufacture, processing, and distribution in commerce of PCBs. Since 1978, EPA has promulgated numerous rules addressing all aspects of the life cycle of PCBs as required by the statute. The regulations are intended to prevent the improper handling and disposal of PCBs and to minimize the exposure of human beings or the environment to PCBs. These regulations have been codified in the various subparts of 40 CFR part 761. There are approximately 100 specific reporting, third-party reporting, and recordkeeping requirements covered by 40 CFR part 761. To meet its statutory obligations to regulate PCBs, EPA must obtain sufficient information to conclude that specified activities do not result in an unreasonable risk of injury to health or the environment. EPA uses the information collected under the 40 CFR part 761 requirements to ensure that PCBs are managed in an environmentally safe manner and that activities are being conducted in compliance with the PCB regulations. The information collected by these requirements will update the Agency's knowledge of ongoing PCB activities, ensure that individuals using or disposing of PCBs are held accountable for their activities, and demonstrate compliance with the PCB regulations. Specific uses of the information collected include determining the efficacy of a disposal technology; evaluating exemption requests and exclusion notices; targeting compliance inspections; and ensuring adequate storage capacity for PCB waste. This ICR consolidates six separate existing ICRs that address PCB reporting and recordkeeping requirements, and includes additional or revised requirements resulting from a final rule amending requirements addressing the manufacture, processing, distribution in commerce, use, cleanup, storage and disposal of PCBs, published June 29, 1998 (63 FR 35383) (FRL-5726-1). Detailed discussions of the existing ICRs and how their associated reporting and/or recordkeeping burdens have changed as a result of the final rule are found in the supporting statement for the information collection that is the subject of this notice. Responses to the collection of information are mandatory (see 40 CFR part 761). Respondents may claim all or part of a notice confidential. EPA will disclose information that is covered by a claim of confidentiality only to the extent permitted by, and in accordance with, the procedures in TSCA section 14 and 40 CFR part 2. V. What are EPA's Burden and Cost Estimates for this ICR? Under the PRA, ``burden'' means the total time, effort, or financial resources expended by persons to generate, maintain, retain, or disclose or provide information to or for a Federal Agency. For this collection it includes the time needed to review instructions; develop, acquire, install, and utilize technology and systems for the purposes of collecting, validating, and verifying information, processing and maintaining information, and disclosing and providing information; adjust the existing ways to comply with any previously applicable instructions and requirements; train personnel to be able to respond to a collection of information; search data sources; complete and review the collection of information; and transmit or otherwise disclose the information. The ICR provides a detailed explanation of this estimate, which is only briefly summarized in this notice. The annual public burden for this collection of information is estimated to average 0.57 hours per response. The following is a summary of the estimates taken from the ICR: Respondents/affected entities: Persons who currently possess PCB items, PCB-contaminated equipment, or other PCB waste. Estimated total number of potential respondents: 1,300,240. Frequency of response: On occasion. Estimated total/average number of responses for each respondent: 1. Estimated total annual burden hours: 741,261. Estimated total annual burden costs:: $24,789,115. VI. Are There Changes in the Estimates from the Last Approval? This ICR consolidates six separate existing ICRs that address PCB reporting and recordkeeping requirements, and includes additional or revised requirements resulting from a final rule amending requirements addressing the manufacture, processing, distribution in commerce, use, cleanup, storage and disposal of PCBs, published June 29, 1998 (63 FR 35383). Therefore any change in estimated burden is more meaningfully expressed as the difference between the current combined burden of the six existing ICRs compared with the estimated burden identified in the information collection that is the subject of this notice, rather than the difference [[Page 1369]] between the current and estimated burden of the subject information collection only. The combined burden of the six existing ICRs totals 2,007,618 hours, while the burden for this consolidated ICR, as noted above, is estimated to be 741,261 hours, a net burden reduction of 1,266,357 hours. This reduction reflects numerous factors, including program changes and adjustments to the burdens of specific existing reporting or recordkeeping requirements, revised estimates regarding the total number of respondents resulting from new data gathered in preparing the consolidated ICR effort, updated Agency analyses, and estimate adjustments that were made for consistency with more recent Agency reports, plus the addition of burden estimates associated with requirements that were overlooked in the various existing ICRs and burden associated with new reporting and recordkeeping requirements contained within the final rule. Identification and detailed discussions of the existing ICRs and how their associated reporting and/or recordkeeping burdens have changed as a result of the final rule are found in section 6(e), Reasons for Change in Burden, of the supporting statement for the subject information collection. VII. What is the Next Step in the Process for this ICR? EPA will consider the comments received and amend the ICR as appropriate. The final ICR package will then be submitted to OMB for review and approval pursuant to 5 CFR 1320.12. EPA will issue another Federal Register notice pursuant to 5 CFR 1320.5(a)(1)(iv) to announce the submission of the ICR to OMB and the opportunity to submit additional comments to OMB. If you have any questions about this ICR or the approval process, please contact the technical person listed under ``FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT.'' List of Subjects Environmental protection, Reporting and recordkeeping requirements. Dated: December 29, 1999. Susan H. Wayland, Deputy Assistant Administrator for Prevention, Pesticides and Toxic Substances. [FR Doc. 00-493 Filed 1-7-00; 8:45 am] BILLING CODE 6560-50-F ------------------------------ From ttweed@wildrockies.org Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:42:32 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:42:32 -0700 From: Tony Tweedale ttweed@wildrockies.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re:Reply Some posts from these people have been logical, others not. A couple days ago one asked us to assume PVC (~50% of Cl use, and climbing) is a social need; a 'must have'. This assumption was quietely made, and followed by the presumed main argument about controlling incinerator emissions. People have got to recognize bad logic! Other posts from these people have similarly been couched in reasonable sounding arguments but were actually quite radical arguments--eg that dioxin in the env is safe if at a certain level, or that drinking water disinfectn w/ Cl is another irreducible need for Cl. Other radical points have also been made that don't come to mind. This is disingenious. Always question assumptions. BTW, on the disinfection q., I posted a short p'graph in a post on another subject, so not all may have seen it. Cities as Cincinatti and many others use filtration and perhaps ozone. O3 is a much more powerful oxidant than Cl, and giardia cysts do not resist it the way they do Cl. Residual disinfection through to the point of use could be accomplished w/ far far less Cl, if any, depending on the desire to manage risk and think. Does anyone know hy so many dugs are compounded w/ HCl, and why this is such a critical use of Cl (tho an infinitesmal one)? Tony Tweedale Causality is a concept not subject to empirical demonstration. -David Hume (1711-'76) Temperate but endangered planet. Enjoys weather, northern lights, continental drift. Seeks caring relationship with intelligent life form. -Friends of the Earth From Jon.Campbell@MetraTech.com Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:58:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:58:08 -0500 From: Jon Campbell Jon.Campbell@MetraTech.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re:Reply Tony, Re: HCL in drugs: I assume much drug synthesis is done via hydrolyzation, that is, the action of HCL on some other substance. I believe this step makes the substance easily assimilated, such as "hydrolyzed vegetable protein (HVP)", the action of hydrochloric acid on protein. But, I'm not a chemist or biologist, so I'm probably shooting in the dark. (As a side note, I am told that HVP is another term commonly used for MSG, which, according to the book "The Taste That Kills" is not good for us...). Jon -----Original Message----- From: Tony Tweedale [mailto:ttweed@wildrockies.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 1:43 AM To: dioxin-l@venice.essential.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re:Reply Some posts from these people have been logical, others not. A couple days ago one asked us to assume PVC (~50% of Cl use, and climbing) is a social need; a 'must have'. This assumption was quietely made, and followed by the presumed main argument about controlling incinerator emissions. People have got to recognize bad logic! Other posts from these people have similarly been couched in reasonable sounding arguments but were actually quite radical arguments--eg that dioxin in the env is safe if at a certain level, or that drinking water disinfectn w/ Cl is another irreducible need for Cl. Other radical points have also been made that don't come to mind. This is disingenious. Always question assumptions. BTW, on the disinfection q., I posted a short p'graph in a post on another subject, so not all may have seen it. Cities as Cincinatti and many others use filtration and perhaps ozone. O3 is a much more powerful oxidant than Cl, and giardia cysts do not resist it the way they do Cl. Residual disinfection through to the point of use could be accomplished w/ far far less Cl, if any, depending on the desire to manage risk and think. Does anyone know hy so many dugs are compounded w/ HCl, and why this is such a critical use of Cl (tho an infinitesmal one)? Tony Tweedale Causality is a concept not subject to empirical demonstration. -David Hume (1711-'76) Temperate but endangered planet. Enjoys weather, northern lights, continental drift. Seeks caring relationship with intelligent life form. -Friends of the Earth _______________________________________________ Dioxin-l mailing list Dioxin-l@lists.essential.org http://lists.essential.org/mailman/listinfo/dioxin-l From pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org Tue, 11 Jan 2000 08:50:47 -0600 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 08:50:47 -0600 From: pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine in drinking water distribution Dear Mr. Bell, I urge you to give the abstract of the study by Payment (1999) a more careful reading. You have interpreted it to say that "E coli is inactivated by residual chlorine throughout the distribution system." This differs considerably from the actual wording of the abstract, as follows: "Except for Escherichia coli, microorganisms remained relatively unaffected in water from the distribution systems tested. When sewage was added to the water samples, indigenous thermotolerant coliforms were inactivated only when water was obtained from sites very close to the treatment plant and containing a high residual chlorine concentration." You then note, " Given that E coli is a principal contaminant of sewage (and in turn the water supply system), and can be highly pathogenic (eg E coli 0157), this abstract can easily be used to make a case for chlorination of water supplies." With this, I would suggest that you have missed a major finding of the study: "Clostridium perfringens was barely inactivated, suggesting that the most resistant pathogens such as Giardia lamblia, Cryptosporidium parvum, and human enteric viruses would not be inactivated. " Please note that the Clostridium perfringens used by Payment (1999) as an indicator for Giardia lambia, Cryptosporidium parvum, and human enteric viruses, was "barely inactivated". Giardia lambia and Cryptosporidium parvum also commonly occur in sewage and have been identified as the causative agents in numerous disease outbreaks. For example, in his recent review -- "Microbiological Safety of Drinking Water: United States and Global Perspectives", Environ Health Perspect 107 ( Suppl 1):191-206 (1999) -- Ford notes as follows: "G. lamblia and C. parvum Smith and Lloyd (111) have recently reported that these two protozoa are responsible for more than 600 million infections worldwide, of which a significant proportion are waterborne. For example, 60% of Giardia cases are estimated to be waterborne in the United States (84), with a point estimate of the annual incidence of giardiasis of 260,000 cases (2). Until recently, giardiasis was the most frequently reported waterborne disease ( 112,113). Cryptosporidiosis has now overtaken giardiasis, with a point estimate of 420,000 annual waterborne cases in the United States (2)." In summary, your suggestion that the findings by Payment (1999) "can easily be used to make a case for chlorination of water supplies" stands in direct opposition to Payment's conclusion: "... the maintenance of a free residual concentration in a distribution system does not provide a significant inactivation of pathogens, could even mask events of contamination of the distribution, and thus would provide only a false sense of safety with little active protection of public health." On 10 Jan 00, at 0:20, david bell wrote: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine From: "david bell" To: dioxin-l@venice.essential.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine in drinking water distribution Date sent: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:20:26 GMT > If I read the abstract below correctly, E coli is inactivated by residual > chlorine throughout the distribution system. Given that E coli is a > principal contaminant of sewage (and in turn the water supply system), and > can be highly pathogenic (eg E coli 0157), this abstract can easily be > used to make a case for chlorination of water supplies. > > I am not sure what to make of the abstract; viruses can be very difficult > to kill, and (I believe) some clostridia have a spore, again making them > very difficult to disinfect. I don't know that E coli isn't a much more > representative bacterial pathogen than the others this abstract measures. > > david bell ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat Costner Greenpeace P.O. Box 548 or 512 County Road 2663 Eureka Springs, Arkansas 72632 ph: 1 501 253 8440 fx: 1 501 253 5540 em: pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Kaltofen@aol.com Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:33:58 EST Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:33:58 EST From: Kaltofen@aol.com Kaltofen@aol.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re:Reply I would reckon that HCL is much less likely to destroy the active part of a drug molecule while still giving the molecule what the drug designer is looking for from an acid salt, namely water solubility. Nitric and sulfuric acids are more likely to attack the backbone of the molecule. (Instead of just a lose proton or two as is the case with HCL.) Marco Kaltofen From Jon.Campbell@MetraTech.com Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:45:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:45:06 -0500 From: Jon Campbell Jon.Campbell@MetraTech.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine in drinking water distr... David, You were not around last year when it was reported (I believe by Charlie Cray) that a number of midwestern U.S. communities had lost their entire water supplies when it was discovered that vinyl chloride monomer was leaching from their water supply pipes. It is also fairly well accepted today that the vinyl chloride monomer found in most municipal dump effuent and contaminated groundwater is due to leaching of VCM from PVC and/or breakdown of PVC into VCM. Your knowledge of the theory of plastics does not seem to bear itself out in practice. Regards Jon Campbell -----Original Message----- From: david bell [mailto:burnt_paper@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 6:33 PM To: Evertcc@aol.com Cc: dioxin-l@lists.essential.org Subject: Re: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine in drinking water distr... Hi Carl >Connie, > >I would be more interested in knowing about any contamination from the PVC >pipe now used in many water systems than of the chlorination of the water >itself. PVC is long-chain, and essentially insoluble in water. Hence it has no toxicity. Vinyl chloride monomer is a good human carcinogen, but there is very little of it in PVC, it gets diluted out a lot, and you can detect the resulting cancer very easily. VCM gives cholangiocarcinoma in humans, and I am not aware in any variation in the rate of this rare human cancer. >My other concern is the combination of chlorine and organic compounds to >form >triholomethane for example. I don't think that we can just look at free >chlorine by itself. I guess you are probably aware that there is a massive ongoing debate around this issue. Some people argue that the (potential) cancer risk from tiny quantities of chloromethanes are significant. Others, that the public health benefits of chlorination vastly outweigh any cancer risk. There is a well-founded argument that the carcinogenicity of trichloromethane has a no effect level- and that the low levels in water are without significance. cheers david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Dioxin-l mailing list Dioxin-l@lists.essential.org http://lists.essential.org/mailman/listinfo/dioxin-l From vbushnell@essential.org Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:40:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:40:44 -0500 (EST) From: Vergil Bushnell vbushnell@essential.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] Open burning ban in Japan Asahi News Service January 11, 2000, Tuesday LENGTH: 327 words HEADLINE: OPEN-AIR WASTE BURNING TARGETED DATELINE: TOKYO BODY: The Health and Welfare Ministry plans to ban open-air waste burning and seek hefty fines or imprisonment for violators, ministry officials said on Jan. 7. The ministry made the decision to deal with the growing number of complaints about neighborhood smoke, stenches and possible cancer-causing dioxins caused by the burning waste, the officials said. Current laws on waste disposal do not clearly prohibit the burning of garbage outdoors. To ban the practice, the ministry plans to submit revisions to the laws at the next ordinary Diet session that starts this month. The revisions will stipulate that violators face prison terms of up to one year or maximum fines of 3 million yen ($28570). However, the revisions will not ban bonfires using scrap wood, the burning of straw in rice fields, or fires to prevent agricultural products from freezing, the officials said. Current laws on waste disposal only state that the burning of waste must be conducted in incinerators. People who burn waste outdoors in violation of the laws are only ordered by the government to stop such action. Such government orders have had little effect because they are simply administrative measures that carry no penalties, such as prison terms or fines. Waste-disposal firms warned by the government have often burned garbage again at other locations. In addition, the government cannot issue the order to unauthorized waste disposal firms that burn waste outdoors. According to Health and Welfare Ministry statistics, the number of waste-burning incidents in open air, confirmed by prefectural governments throughout the country, stood at 5,385 in fiscal 1998, an increase of 40 percent from fiscal 1997, and more than double that of fiscal 1996. Of those cases, 80 percent were conducted by companies not including waste disposal firms. In the 5,385 burnings of fiscal 1998, at least 40,000 tons of waste was burned, according to the statistics. Vergil Bushnell Multinationals Resource Center email: vbushnell@essential.org phone: 202.387.8030 address: PO Box 19405, Washington DC 20036 From vbushnell@essential.org Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:42:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:42:51 -0500 (EST) From: Vergil Bushnell vbushnell@essential.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] Open Burning Restrictions in Malaysia New Straits Times (Malaysia) January 11, 2000 SECTION: Pg. 1 LENGTH: 669 words HEADLINE: New law on open burning (HL) BYLINE: By Esther Tan DATELINE: Kuala Lumpur BODY: KUALA LUMPUR, Mon. - Those planning to conduct open burning to dispose of infected crops or carcasses of diseased animals must inform the Department of Environment and get approval from relevant agencies under new legislation which will be enforced next month. They must adhere to a set of conditions or face a fine of up to RM2,000 under the new Environmental Quality (Prescribed Activities)(Open Burning) Order which will be gazetted by the end of next month. They are also liable to a maximum fine of RM500,000 or up to five years' jail or both under the Environmental Quality Act if their case is taken to court. DOE director-general Rosnani Ibarahim told the New Straits Times that the draft of the Order, drawn up following the severe haze in 1998, has been finalised and would be submitted to the Cabinet after the Hari Raya holidays. "We plan to gazette and enforce the Order by the end of next month," she said. The Order is made possible with the 1998 amendments to the Environmental Quality Act (EQA) which also saw the introduction of stiffer penalties for open burning. At present, some of the conditions under the Order are being implemented as mere guidelines. Once gazetted, the conditions will have legal force. Under the Order, open burning will only be allowed for prescribed activities such as religious practices, training and research activities, disease control, and agricultural practices which involve the burning of sugar cane leaves and padi stalks, and shifting cultivation. The existing Environmental Quality (Clean Air) Regulations 1978, allow open burning for these activities. The difference is that the DOE does not need to be informed beforehand and there are no stringent conditions to adhere to. Rosnani said the Order will make it a requirement for those wishing to carry out open burning for these exempted activities to provide prior notification to the DOE. Those wanting to dispose of infected crops and carcasses of diseased animals or poultry for disease and pest control must get approval from the departments of Agriculture and Veterinary Services. One of the conditions is that burning of carcasses can only be carried out in areas where other alternatives such as incinerators are not available. The burning must be conducted in designated areas determined by the DOE. Open burning activities must cease if the Air Pollutant Index breaches 100. All open burning must also be supervised. Burning of garden refuse on the premises of private residences will continue to be allowed under the Order provided it is done between 8am and 6pm. Private residents are not required to inform the DOE. "Under the Order, we will no longer issue written permission for open burning such as for land-clearing by plantations. This means open burning for any other activities other than the prescribed activities will no longer be allowed," said Rosnani. The Order will remove ambiguities which obstruct effective enforcement as the prescribed list is very specific on types of activities. For instance, Rosnani said the Order clearly defined the types of agricultural practices where open burning is allowed. Essentially, the exemption is given to smallholders and those carrying out traditional agricultural practices as they cannot afford zero-burning technology. Big plantation companies have no excuse. The plantation sector is lumped under agricultural practices under the current regulations. "Under normal circumstances, they will no longer be allowed to carry out open burning because they are capable of zero-burning techniques," said Rosnani. The Order is the second stage of the DOE's efforts to ensure stringent enforcement to curb local sources of haze. It had amended the EQA to raise the maximum fine from RM100,000 to RM500,000 for open burning. It also made land owners responsible for fires on their land unless they could prove that the open burning occurred outside of their control. Vergil Bushnell Multinationals Resource Center email: vbushnell@essential.org phone: 202.387.8030 address: PO Box 19405, Washington DC 20036 From burnt_paper@hotmail.com Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:00:11 GMT Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:00:11 GMT From: david bell burnt_paper@hotmail.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine in drinking water distribution Hi Pat perhaps you can explain the wording of the abstract to me: I have not seen the paper, and do not know what information it contains. >microorganisms remained relatively > unaffected in water from the distribution systems tested I understand this- >except for Escherichia coli Can you please explain to me what this means ? Does this not mean that E coli is affected by water from the distribution systems tested ? Is this not the wording of the abstract ? If E coli is disinfected, is this not a good thing ? If other bacteria and viruses are not inactivated, that is clearly a 'bad thing'; but you don't make the 'bad thing' better by adding another pathogen, E coli, to the mix. david >Dear Mr. Bell, > >I urge you to give the abstract of the study by Payment (1999) a >more careful reading. You have interpreted it to say that "E coli is >inactivated by residual chlorine throughout the distribution >system." This differs considerably from the actual wording of the >abstract, as follows: > > "Except for Escherichia coli, microorganisms remained relatively > unaffected in water from the distribution systems tested. When > sewage was added to the water samples, indigenous thermotolerant > coliforms were inactivated only when water was obtained from > sites very close to the treatment plant and containing a high > residual chlorine concentration." > >You then note, " Given that E coli is a principal contaminant of >sewage (and in turn the water supply system), and can be highly >pathogenic (eg E coli 0157), this abstract can easily be used to > make a case for chlorination of water supplies." With this, I > would suggest that you have missed a major finding of the study: > > "Clostridium perfringens was barely inactivated, suggesting that > the most resistant pathogens such as Giardia lamblia, > Cryptosporidium parvum, and human enteric viruses would not > be inactivated. " ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Jon.Campbell@MetraTech.com Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:21:55 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:21:55 -0500 From: Jon Campbell Jon.Campbell@MetraTech.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine in drinking water distribution David, I can't figure out whether you are being disingenuous or just not understanding what you just wrote. Look at it again: > Except for Escherichia coli, microorganisms remained relatively > unaffected in water from the distribution systems tested. When > sewage was added to the water samples, indigenous thermotolerant > coliforms were inactivated only when water was obtained from > sites very close to the treatment plant and containing a high > residual chlorine concentration." 1. The abstract says first that other microorganisms are relatively unaffected. This makes chlorine, at best, a poor choice because it provides a false sense of security against the major vectors which cause disease from water systems, that is, those other than e. coli. This is what Pat Costner said in her last message. 2. The abstract says that coliforms (e. coli) are only inactivated ONLY when water was obtained from sites VERY CLOSE to the treatment plant and containing a HIGH residual chlorine concentration. This again makes chlorine a poor choice because people think the residual chlorine is killing e. coli throughout the system when it isn't. This is what Pat Costner said in her last message. Please, this debate is getting very silly. You keep on throwing up the standard organochlorine industry straw men, and we keep on having to tear them down. Are you reading from the a Chlorine Chemical Council flyer, or what? This is getting very tiresome. Why are you doing this, or should I ask, who do you work for? This dioxin list has been around for several years. If you want to see all the arguments about this, you can read them in the archives. The intent of this list is for dioxin researchers and activists to share information about dioxin exposure and its reduction, not to waste our time tearing down industry straw men. Thanks Jon Campbell -----Original Message----- From: david bell [mailto:burnt_paper@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:00 PM To: pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org Cc: dioxin-l@venice.essential.org Subject: Re: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine in drinking water distribution Hi Pat perhaps you can explain the wording of the abstract to me: I have not seen the paper, and do not know what information it contains. >microorganisms remained relatively > unaffected in water from the distribution systems tested I understand this- >except for Escherichia coli Can you please explain to me what this means ? Does this not mean that E coli is affected by water from the distribution systems tested ? Is this not the wording of the abstract ? If E coli is disinfected, is this not a good thing ? If other bacteria and viruses are not inactivated, that is clearly a 'bad thing'; but you don't make the 'bad thing' better by adding another pathogen, E coli, to the mix. david >Dear Mr. Bell, > >I urge you to give the abstract of the study by Payment (1999) a >more careful reading. You have interpreted it to say that "E coli is >inactivated by residual chlorine throughout the distribution >system." This differs considerably from the actual wording of the >abstract, as follows: > > "Except for Escherichia coli, microorganisms remained relatively > unaffected in water from the distribution systems tested. When > sewage was added to the water samples, indigenous thermotolerant > coliforms were inactivated only when water was obtained from > sites very close to the treatment plant and containing a high > residual chlorine concentration." > >You then note, " Given that E coli is a principal contaminant of >sewage (and in turn the water supply system), and can be highly >pathogenic (eg E coli 0157), this abstract can easily be used to > make a case for chlorination of water supplies." With this, I > would suggest that you have missed a major finding of the study: > > "Clostridium perfringens was barely inactivated, suggesting that > the most resistant pathogens such as Giardia lamblia, > Cryptosporidium parvum, and human enteric viruses would not > be inactivated. " ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Dioxin-l mailing list Dioxin-l@lists.essential.org http://lists.essential.org/mailman/listinfo/dioxin-l From vbushnell@essential.org Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:06:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:06:44 -0500 (EST) From: Vergil Bushnell vbushnell@essential.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] PVC Plant In China Here is a PVC plant project, courtesy the World Bank's webpage. An incinerator will be included to treat "non condensible gas". Sincerely, Vergil _____________ Project Name China-Suzhou PVC Region East Asia and Pacific Sector Fertilizer and Other Chemicals Project No. 008213 1. Suzhou PVC is a joint venture between the Westlake Group of the U.S.A. and Norsk Hydro a.s. of Norway, as foreign investors, and China Jiangsu Chemical Pesticide Group Co. and China Taicang Petrochemical Co., as local shareholders. Both Westlake and Norsk Hydro are major producers of PVC with a combined capacity of over 600,000 tpy, providing the project with the necessary technical and marketing expertise. The proposed project involves the construction and operation of a 100,000 mtpa polyvinyl chloride (PVC) resin plant and a PVC film calendaring facility with a capacity of up to 24,000 mtpa within an existing industrial estate in Suzhou, Jiangsu Province, China. 2. This is a category B project according to IFC's environmental review procedure because specific impacts may result which can be avoided or mitigated by adhering to generally recognized performance standards, guidelines or design criteria. The review of this project consisted of information submitted by the project sponsor and the technical appraisal and site review completed by IFC's Chemicals, Petrochemicals and Fertilizers Department staff. The following potential environmental, health and safety impacts of this project were analyzed: . site location and infrastructure; . processes and techniques used; . air emissions; . liquid effluent management; . solid waste management; . environmental and safety standards applied; and . emergency prevention and response. The information provided about how these potential impacts would be addressed in the Suzhou PVC project is summarized in the paragraphs that follow. 3. The manufacturing facility will be located within an existing industrial estate at the Yantze River bank north of Shanghai. The raw material, Vinyl Chloride Monomer (VCM), will be received as bulk deliveries by ship, utilizing an existing pier at the neighboring company in the industrial estate. No residents are living within the industrial estate. 4. The PVC manufacturing plant will be operated based on polymerization of imported VCM and will use the suspension method. The polymerization section consists of two reactors and a blowdown tank. VCM, a suspending agent, buffer, catalyst, and water are charged to the reactors. The reaction mass is heated using steam. During polymerization reaction heat is removed through condenser and the reactor jacket. After the reaction is completed, the batch is transferred to the blowdown tank where un-reacted VCM is removed. The PVC slurry is then stripped, dried, stored and packed in bags for shipment. 5. All VCM removed in the process is collected and fed to the recovery section, where VCM is recovered and recycled. The plant will also include an incinerator facility. Non-condensable gas is sent to the incinerator for disposal. The off-gas from the incinerator is treated with a diluted caustic soda solution to neutralize HCl. This off-gas will be the only emission from the plant and will comply with local requirements and World Bank guidelines. 6. The plant will include wastewater treatment and recycling of process waste water. All process wastewater is collected and treated by stripping and precipitation of PVC powder. The wastewater is then sent to the wastewater treatment system for partial reuse in the plant. 7. The process will not generate solid waste, and the municipal garbage disposal system will be used for domestic solid waste. 8. The plant operation system provides interlocking capabilities and controls to ensure the plant performs in an environmentally safe and efficient manner. The plant design is based on U.S. engineering specifications for environment and safety. 9. As VCM is a hazardous and flammable chemical, significant emergency prevention and response measures will be implemented as follows: incoming ships and barges will have the individual cargo hold unloaded in sequence to avoid and limit spills. To prevent further migration of any spill on the water, floating booms will be available as an emergency response measure; area monitors will be located throughout the plant to detect the presence of VCM vapors at low concentration levels. These monitors will alert personnel to find and repair all leaks immediately; storage tanks for flammable materials are with dikes and isolated from manufacturing areas and from the plant perimeter. Proper designed relief systems and avoidance of ignition sources within the plant will further minimize the risk of fires. Emergency response to fires will automatically be activated by heat-sensitive, manually actuated and light-sensitive devices; emergency response to fires includes combinations of water deluge from fixed spray, monitors, local hose reels and extinguisher; and a HAZOP analysis will be prepared prior to mechanical completion. 10. IFC will ensure ongoing compliance with World Bank environmental, health and safety policies and guidelines during the life of the project by evaluating monitoring reports submitted annually to IFC by Suzhou PVC and by conducting periodic supervision. 11. Based on its review of available information regarding potential environmental impacts and proposed mitigation measures, IFC concludes that Suzhou PVC's proposed project is designed to meet World Bank environmental, health and safety policies and guidelines, and host country requirements. _____ Vergil Bushnell Multinationals Resource Center email: vbushnell@essential.org phone: 202.387.8030 address: PO Box 19405, Washington DC 20036 From agrace@nrdc.org Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:15:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:15:36 -0700 From: Ami Grace agrace@nrdc.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] Coordinate comments on Biosolids pcdd/f/pcb rule as Caroline Snyder & Ihave been posting lately, all indications are that EPA is off by c. 2 orders of maginitude in this rule (300 ppt vs, say, 0.5-3.0 ppt; the latter using valid exposure modelling such as WI DPH or ATSDR's soil screening levels, and the draft Dioxin Reasessment TDI "safe" dose of 0.01 pg/kg/d). No doubt to sneak in yet another lax dioxin rule before finalizing the Reassessment. These bureaucrats sure can be callous of that basic right, health. -tony t. --- On December 15, 1999, EPA offered a proposed rule for the regulation of furans, dioxins and coplanar PCBs in biosolids for land application. A fact sheet and the rule can be found at http://www.epa.gov/ost/biosolids/ Comments are due on Feb. 22, 2000. Is anyone planning on commenting on this regulation? If so, please contact Nancy Stoner with NRDC-- DC who is interested in coordinating comments (Nancy can be reached at nstoner@nrdc.org or 202-289-2394). Thank you, Ami Grace, CWN _____________________________________________________________ Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 From pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:08:25 -0600 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:08:25 -0600 From: pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] RE: Dioxins: Natural or Manmade?  Greenpeace: Pat Costner, May 1999  Dioxins: Natural or Manmade? In 1995, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Science Advisory Board considered the question in its review of Anthropogenic (manmade) vs. Natural Sources of Dioxin and concluded: =93[T]he observation in the late 1970s that dioxins are produced by the combustion of many common materials, including municipal solid waste =85 led some scientists to suggest that dioxins had been with us since =91the advent of fire=92 and that dioxins could be produced by natural combustion (for example, by forest fires). At that time, there were some suggestions that observed levels of dioxins were primarily the result of coal combustion or perhaps of wood burned in small stoves.=94 =93This speculation was largely refuted by sediment core studies, both in the United States (primarily in the Great Lakes) and in Europe, which indicated that environmental dioxin levels increased significantly beginning about 1935-40 (see Volume II, pages 3-92 to 3-94). =93Since the advent of fire clearly predated this time, it can be concluded that dioxins were largely anthropogenic and associated with events taking place around 1935-40. What were these events? Coal combustion could be ruled out because the consumption of coal in the United States was essentially constant from the turn of the century until about 1970; this record did not agree with the sediment core data. This statement by the USEPA SAB then suggests what has changed. The major source of dioxin in the environment is not combustion by itself. The source, rather, is the production and combustion of certain man-made (anthropogenic) chlorine containing materials that first began circulating in large quantities in the period following 1930. =93The explanation is likely to be the introduction of chlorinated organic compounds (polyvinyl chloride and chlorinated pesticides are but two examples) in the 1935-40 time-frame. Other sources such as leaded gasoline (which commonly contained ethylene dichloride and ethylene dibromide), diesel emissions, and PCBs are also possibly significant contributors. =93Although the details of dioxin formation are not yet quantitatively= understood, the introduction of these chlorinated products into wastes that were combusted appears to be the most likely cause of the increased dioxin deposition measured in sediments.=94 Source: U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Science Advisory Board, 1995. A Second Look at Dioxin: Science Advisory Board's review of the Draft Dioxin Exposure and Health Effects Reassessment Documents. EPA-SAB-EC-95-021, Washington, D.C., September 29, 1995 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat Costner Greenpeace P.O. Box 548 or 512 County Road 2663 Eureka Springs, Arkansas 72632 ph: 1 501 253 8440 fx: 1 501 253 5540 em: pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From kefcrowe@acs.eku.edu Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:40:39 -0800 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:40:39 -0800 From: Elizabeth Crowe kefcrowe@acs.eku.edu Subject: [Dioxin-l] New environmental violations alleged at Utah chemical weapons incinerator --============_-1264480848==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" CHEMICAL WEAPONS WORKING GROUP PO Box 467 Berea, KY 40403 606-986-7565 606-986-2695 kefwilli@acs.eku.edu www.cwwg.org for further information: Craig Williams (606) 986-7565 Bob Schaeffer (941) 395-6773 Mick Harrison (606) 321-1586 for use after 1pm EST, Tues. Jan. 11, 2000 news conference NEW WHISTLEBLOWER SAYS U.S. ARMY ENGAGED IN FRAUD, CORRUPTION; HID ENVIRONMENTAL VIOLATIONS TO WIN UTAH CHEM. WEAPONS INCINERATOR PERMIT; EX-TOOELE PERMIT HEAD SAYS JOB THREATENED TO GET COOPERATION The former Permit Coordinator at the U.S. Army's Tooele, Utah, chemical weapons incinerator today revealed his job was threatened unless he agreed to submit false data and withhold vital environmental information to get that controversial facility licensed. Speaking at a National Press Club news conference, Gary E. Harris, said, "Many questionable practices that were not environmentally protective, safe or legal occurred at Tooele during my five years of employment there, and many documents were submitted to Utah regulators by the Army and its contractors that were dishonest or misleading. As Permit Coordinator I was directed to submit modifications to the plant that did not comply with Federal Law. I reported health, safety and environmental issues to the contractor and the Army which I was directed not to bring to the attention of the State under the threat of losing my job." Mr. Harris provided a list of more than 100 improper activities at Tooele, allegations he has sworn to under oath in a deposition for a Utah legal proceeding challenging the plant's hazardous waste operating permit. Among his specific charges: * Political influence was applied by the Army to "fix" Utah process to cover-up dangerous practices and avoid public review and comment. Utah permit did not reflect facility actually built; * The plant's Health Risk Assessment was politically adjusted to obtain desired results by removal of data about people living and farming close to the incineration facilities; * Incinerator trial burns were falsified to avoid revealing that Metal Parts Furnace incinerator cannot safely burn the jelled agent found in many munitions and containers; * Data was manipulated to conceal fact that agent was not staying in Deactivation Furnace long enough to be destroyed; * Information was purposefully withheld from the regulators that a key component of planned agent destruction process, the dunnage incinerator designed to handle agent contaminated material like protective suits, could not work; * Staff were directed not to incorporate "lessons learned" from other facilities, such as the fact that the incinerators could not completely incinerate mustard agent, into the Tooele design and not to contact any sites under construction to share information on problems; * Agent residues were improperly disposed of off-site; and * Nearby communities never agreed to provide emergency response for accidents as required by permit was ignored; The Tooele chemical weapons incinerator, the only such facility on the U.S. mainland and the model for similar plants slated for construction in Arkansas, Oregon, Alabama, Colorado, and Kentucky has been severely criticized by former plant officials and citizen groups. Tooele's former Safety Manager, Steve Jones, was terminated for refusing to certify that the facility was safe but returned to his job after the U.S. Department of Labor found that he had been illegally fired for having raised safety and environmental concerns. Subsequently, the plant's General Manager, Gary Millar, resigned charging that the Tooele incinerator remained unsafe. Then the plant's hazardous waste manager Trina Allen was forced to resign after raising concerns about environmental violations at the facility. A Department of Labor judge ruled in favor of Ms. Allen on her whistleblower retaliation complaint. Mick Harrison, the lawyer representing Mr. Harris added, "Gary Harris' revelations demonstrate that the U.S. Army has knowingly violated the law, covered up known dangers, and corruptly influenced state agencies to proceed recklessly with a technology they know does not work. This is unacceptable behavior in any circumstances, but particularly risky in the area of chemical weapons destruction." Craig Williams, national spokesman for the Chemical Weapons Working Group, a coalition supporting non-incineration technologies, concluded, "The Army's incineration program is another 'Paducah' in the making. Workers are being exposed, dangerous agents are being emitted, and government agencies are conspiring to cover up the mess. The Tooele plant should be shut down immediately and construction of similar facilities halted." - - 3 0 - - A background kit including a chronology of problems in the Army's incineration program, Mr. Harris' list of significant safety, health and environmental problems at the Tooele facility, and other information is available on request. Elizabeth Crowe Chemical Weapons Working Group Non-Stockpile Chemical Weapons Citizens Coalition (606) 986-0868 fax: (606) 986-2695 www.cwwg.org --============_-1264480848==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" TimesCHEMICAL WEAPONS WORKING GROUP PO Box 467 Berea, KY 40403 606-986-7565 606-986-2695 kefwilli@acs.eku.edu www.cwwg.org Times for further information: Craig Williams (606) 986-7565 Bob Schaeffer (941) 395-6773 Mick Harrison (606) 321-1586 for use after 1pm EST, Tues. Jan. 11, 2000 news conference NEW WHISTLEBLOWER SAYS U.S. ARMY ENGAGED IN FRAUD, CORRUPTION; HID ENVIRONMENTAL VIOLATIONS TO WIN UTAH CHEM. WEAPONS INCINERATOR PERMIT; EX-TOOELE PERMIT HEAD SAYS JOB THREATENED TO GET COOPERATION The former Permit Coordinator at the U.S. Army's Tooele, Utah, chemical weapons incinerator today revealed his job was threatened unless he agreed to submit false data and withhold vital environmental information to get that controversial facility licensed. Speaking at a National Press Club news conference, Gary E. Harris, said, "Many questionable practices that were not environmentally protective, safe or legal occurred at Tooele during my five years of employment there, and many documents were submitted to Utah regulators by the Army and its contractors that were dishonest or misleading. As Permit Coordinator I was directed to submit modifications to the plant that did not comply with Federal Law. I reported health, safety and environmental issues to the contractor and the Army which I was directed not to bring to the attention of the State under the threat of losing my job." Mr. Harris provided a list of more than 100 improper activities at Tooele, allegations he has sworn to under oath in a deposition for a Utah legal proceeding challenging the plant's hazardous waste operating permit. Among his specific charges: * Political influence was applied by the Army to "fix" Utah process to cover-up dangerous practices and avoid public review and comment. Utah permit did not reflect facility actually built; * The plant's Health Risk Assessment was politically adjusted to obtain desired results by removal of data about people living and farming close to the incineration facilities; * Incinerator trial burns were falsified to avoid revealing that Metal Parts Furnace incinerator cannot safely burn the jelled agent found in many munitions and containers; * Data was manipulated to conceal fact that agent was not staying in Deactivation Furnace long enough to be destroyed; * Information was purposefully withheld from the regulators that a key component of planned agent destruction process, the dunnage incinerator designed to handle agent contaminated material like protective suits, could not work; * Staff were directed not to incorporate "lessons learned" from other facilities, such as the fact that the incinerators could not completely incinerate mustard agent, into the Tooele design and not to contact any sites under construction to share information on problems; * Agent residues were improperly disposed of off-site; and * Nearby communities never agreed to provide emergency response for accidents as required by permit was ignored; The Tooele chemical weapons incinerator, the only such facility on the U.S. mainland and the model for similar plants slated for construction in Arkansas, Oregon, Alabama, Colorado, and Kentucky has been severely criticized by former plant officials and citizen groups. Tooele's former Safety Manager, Steve Jones, was terminated for refusing to certify that the facility was safe but returned to his job after the U.S. Department of Labor found that he had been illegally fired for having raised safety and environmental concerns. Subsequently, the plant's General Manager, Gary Millar, resigned charging that the Tooele incinerator remained unsafe. Then the plant's hazardous waste manager Trina Allen was forced to resign after raising concerns about environmental violations at the facility. A Department of Labor judge ruled in favor of Ms. Allen on her whistleblower retaliation complaint. Mick Harrison, the lawyer representing Mr. Harris added, "Gary Harris' revelations demonstrate that the U.S. Army has knowingly violated the law, covered up known dangers, and corruptly influenced state agencies to proceed recklessly with a technology they know does not work. This is unacceptable behavior in any circumstances, but particularly risky in the area of chemical weapons destruction." Craig Williams, national spokesman for the Chemical Weapons Working Group, a coalition supporting non-incineration technologies, concluded, "The Army's incineration program is another 'Paducah' in the making. Workers are being exposed, dangerous agents are being emitted, and government agencies are conspiring to cover up the mess. The Tooele plant should be shut down immediately and construction of similar facilities halted." - - 3 0 - - A background kit including a chronology of problems in the Army's incineration program, Mr. Harris' list of significant safety, health and environmental problems at the Tooele facility, and other information is available on request. Elizabeth Crowe Chemical Weapons Working Group Non-Stockpile Chemical Weapons Citizens Coalition (606) 986-0868 fax: (606) 986-2695 www.cwwg.org --============_-1264480848==_ma============-- From Evertcc@aol.com Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:55:04 EST Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:55:04 EST From: Evertcc@aol.com Evertcc@aol.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine in drinking water distr... Jon, I understand that many PVC products contain organo-metalic compounds which serve as stabilizers ( I believe), hence the lead dust hazard on PVC mini blinds. Any known leaching of these? Carl From pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:58:20 -0600 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:58:20 -0600 From: pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine in drinking water distribution Dear Mr. Bell, I posted the abstract of the study by Payment (1999). Subsequently, I pointed out how your interpretation of the abstract differed, in very important and fundamental ways, from the wording of the abstract itself. I.e., you misread and/or misinterpreted the abstract. Also, your last question below suggests that continuing to pursue this discussion will not be productive. Comprehension is a matter of attention and practice; it is rarely directly imparted. My kind regards, Pat Costner On 11 Jan 00, at 19:00, david bell wrote: Re: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlo > Hi Pat > perhaps you can explain the wording of the abstract to me: I have not seen > the paper, and do not know what information it contains. > > >microorganisms remained relatively > > unaffected in water from the distribution systems tested > > I understand this- > > >except for Escherichia coli > > Can you please explain to me what this means ? Does this not mean that E > coli is affected by water from the distribution systems tested ? Is this > not the wording of the abstract ? > > If E coli is disinfected, is this not a good thing ? > > If other bacteria and viruses are not inactivated, that is clearly a 'bad > thing'; but you don't make the 'bad thing' better by adding another > pathogen, E coli, to the mix. > > david > > >Dear Mr. Bell, > > > >I urge you to give the abstract of the study by Payment (1999) a > >more careful reading. You have interpreted it to say that "E coli is > >inactivated by residual chlorine throughout the distribution system." > >This differs considerably from the actual wording of the abstract, as > >follows: > > > > "Except for Escherichia coli, microorganisms remained relatively > > unaffected in water from the distribution systems tested. When > > sewage was added to the water samples, indigenous thermotolerant > > coliforms were inactivated only when water was obtained from sites > > very close to the treatment plant and containing a high residual > > chlorine concentration." > > > >You then note, " Given that E coli is a principal contaminant of > >sewage (and in turn the water supply system), and can be highly > >pathogenic (eg E coli 0157), this abstract can easily be used to > > make a case for chlorination of water supplies." With this, I > > would suggest that you have missed a major finding of the study: > > > > "Clostridium perfringens was barely inactivated, suggesting that the > > most resistant pathogens such as Giardia lamblia, Cryptosporidium > > parvum, and human enteric viruses would not > > be inactivated. " > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dioxin-l mailing list > Dioxin-l@lists.essential.org > http://lists.essential.org/mailman/listinfo/dioxin-l > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat Costner Greenpeace P.O. Box 548 or 512 County Road 2663 Eureka Springs, Arkansas 72632 ph: 1 501 253 8440 fx: 1 501 253 5540 em: pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From superjicb@email.msn.com Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:58:13 -0800 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:58:13 -0800 From: superjicb superjicb@email.msn.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re:Reply Tony, Maybe I'm not explaining what I think clearly enough. Also maybe after working almost 15 years altogether in the chemical industry (two firms) there are concepts that I did not question that I should have questioned. I've monitored this board for a long time without comment. I only commented because I found David so outrageous. Trust that the intent of my posts were pro human health (and therefore pro environmental health). Drawing my data from published sources, in the US today we use about 4% of chlorine for water treatment, and most of the 4% is for primary and secondary water treatment. My guess is that about 5% of the 4% is used in residual water treatment. Multiplying the number out shows that I was indicating that it could be necessary to continue to use .2% of all chlorine made intentionally in the US for the purpose of residual water treatment. That is a fifth of one percent. I said this because I personally did not know of any viable replacement for chlorine in residual treatment, and it was my understanding that residual treatment is necessary for human health. Over the years I cannot tell you how often I read and heard that environmental advocates were fanatics for wanting to ban chlorine from water treatment. One way to stop this undeserved bad press is to concede using chlorine where it makes sense. If I'm wrong about my belief that chlorine is needed for residual water treatment, then fine, help me learn. If I am right, then it is my belief that environmental advocates should support chlorine in this tiny application, while they look for safer alternatives. Sometimes you need to be willing to lose a battle to win the war, especially where human health is at stake, and when perception is an important consideration, and when your educational budget is a small percent of their PR and lobbying budgets. PVC end uses are no mystery and I do not personally know of any uses where PVC is a must-have. If special uses exist, I imagine that they would require a fraction of a percent of today's PVC demand (and that means an even smaller fraction of a percent of today's chlorine demand). In my opinion PVC pipes, siding, car panels, etc., are not needed and all should go. For the last two years I've only followed environmental issues as a passive observer, but David's statements were so defeating, that they outraged me to comment, albeit without the data needed to refute much of what he had to say. If I'm wrong David, please let us know who you work for and what your position is and why you asked these specific questions. I'm the kind of person who needs to read it myself to believe it. I had no information to deny David's indication that dioxin levels in the US are already well in excess of what the EPA has determined we can tolerate. But I found it suspect that David's questions indicated that the cost of decreasing dioxin may not be worth the effort because nature makes more chlorine than the EPA finds tolerable -- yes David - logic tells us that if you indicate that late 1800s dioxin levels are natural because there was no industry at that time, and you combine this concept with the concept that you held forth that dioxin is already way over EPA acceptable levels, then you are indicating that NATURE makes more chlorine than the US EPA finds tolerable. I wondered if this was just your personal view or if industry was propagating it, but even without data, plain old logic told me that if I accept that we have moved beyond safe levels of dioxin in our environment, that it becomes even more urgent to immediately stop producing more dioxin. Tony, I want to make it clear to you that while I can now see your point, that my statement was proffered to debate Davids, not to imply that dioxin is safe at some specific level. I'd like to imagine that I think for myself, but I recognize that altogether I worked about 15 years in the chemical industry and that I've been inundated with the idea that "the dose makes the difference." I never saw a problem with accepting this concept until you questioned my motives. You wrote: "Other posts from these people have similarly been couched in reasonable sounding arguments but were actually quite radical arguments--eg that dioxin in the env is safe if at a certain level." This obviously questioned my motives and at first I was upset because my motives were on the side of human health, but then I calmed down and starting thinking about it. Dose normally refers to medicine or cures, but in general terms industry tends to use it to include toxins. Therefore, the question posed by industry is more or less: "at what level is a dose of poison acceptable." I accept that it is difficult to give credibility to any specific number, especially because scientists change their mind so often, and have such disparate views. Also, when you combine science with politics - which is what the EPA is all about, you must factor in ulterior motives. And how do you do this? If you assume that at a point in time the EPA is pro-industry, then you recognize that they can benefit industry by saying (for example) that intolerable levels are any level greater than 1, but that today we are only at .006 so we don't have to worry. Or they can say that intolerable levels are 1 but nature produces 1,000 - so the situation is helpless -- which seemed to me to be David's message, and I found the message intolerable - David correct me if I am wrong. Considering all factors, the only thing that makes sense to me is that we accept the amount of dioxin that nature makes, as the maximum tolerable level, and that we are therefore very careful to ensure that we work hard towards making sure that we make NONE ourselves. I say this because poison is poison, and there are too many variables to consider, and about the only thing that we can count on is that we can measure how much there is right now and "maybe" compare that to what used to be. I say "maybe" when I refer to historical samples, because we determine historical levels by digging holes in the ground to certain depths, and taking samples from what we believe are levels of historical significance. The problem with these samples is that the dioxin in the sample may have been formed sometime after the historical period that we believe the sample came from. Or maybe there was MORE dioxin present at the time of historical significance and over time the dioxin that had been present broke down, which would lead us to believe that there was less dioxin present in the past than there really was. Either way the only thing we can be sure of is that we really don't know. All we know is that any species that cannot survive in nature dies out, and that we are still around. Making core sample slides for oil exploration was something that I did to put myself through college. I have since observed that if man could really depend on the chemistry of core samples, man would not be drilling so many dry wells. The only one thing we know for sure about nature and dioxin is that so far nature has been kind, and has not made more dioxin than man can tolerate. I'm personally grateful for this and I think we all should be grateful. The one thing we can say about man, is that logic leads us to believe that man has made more dioxin than man can tolerate. Tony, I hope this has clarified my position and that I've redeemed myself from being included as one of "these people." Connie Hansson From: Tony Tweedale > Some posts from these people have been logical, others not. > From carllark@olypen.com Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:13:56 -0800 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:13:56 -0800 From: Carl Larkins carllark@olypen.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Reply This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01BF5C5F.A03A7F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings All, in spite of my resolve not to get draged into this, I am in. I offer the comments shown below. Carl Larkins ----- Original Message ----- From: superjicb To: dioxin-l@lists.essential.org Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 9:22 AM Subject: [Dioxin-l] Reply David, Your comment: > One of the interesting things is that erring on the side of caution can have its costs. So currently, the US EPA estimates daily intake of dioxin TEQs as 1-4 ng/kg, or 100-400 times greater than the EPA recommended intake. It is not clear how one would get the level of dioxin TEQ intake down by 400 fold; it would certainly be an expensive undertaking. Some estimates are that it would cost in excess of the US GNP to reduce dioxin intakes to the US EPA recommended levels; clearly you would only want to spend that money if there were to be a tangible benefit. My reply: One of the interesting things is that erring on the side of risk can have is costs, both to human health, shorter life spans, and to the economy in the form of high medical bills, lost productivity, etc. I cannot comment on the validity of the EPAs numbers but plain old common sense tells me that here we are not even talking about erring on the side of risk. If scientists already think our dioxin intake is too high, then we are talking about blatent disregard. This only makes it more urgent that we move quickly to do what we can to stop from increasing dioxin levels even further. The answer is not to throw up our hands and give up. ============================================= My comment: If there have been benifits from products that spawn dioxin, those benificaries should bear the cost of any harm caused by dioxin and the cost of preventing dioxin from causing additional harm. Especially in those cases where alternatives exist, stock hoders and others who reap chlorine profits are passing dioxin related costs on to future generations. ============================================= Your comment: > > > Given the recent postings about production of dioxins from uncontrolled burning, it may well be that the level of dioxin in the 1800s largely stemmed from the incineration that the local populace undertook. It clearly wasn't the chemical industry. My initial reply: > >Why is it clear chemicals were not implicated? Your reply: > There was next to no organochlorine chemical industry in the late 1800s, and > precious little in America. Compare with hundreds of millions of tons of > organochlorines produced in the 60s; as far as I am aware, there wasn't the > technology to make, transport or a market to sell a million tons of > organochlorine compound in the 1800s. So where did the environmental dioxin > production come from in the 1800s? It still amounted to 10% of current > levels. I guess I can only think of uncontrolled burning; all suggestions > welcome. My reply: I can come up with a reason other than uncontrolled burning that would implicate chlorine. When we talked about dioxin in the late 1800s it was related to the Beaver Lake dioxin in sludge study that you brought to our attention. We all know chemical pulping occurs on large bodies of water. I think we both agreed that the mid 1950s dioxin contamination of this lake likely came from chlorine bleaching of pulp. What is in contention is what occurred early on. Successful chemical pulping began in about 1851 and to the best of my knowledge, pulp was bleached with chlorine even before chemical pulping became the standard. In the early 1800s British scientists already knew how to produce chlorine electrochemically, but because electricity was so expensive electrochemical chlorine production did not occur until the 1900s, and in the 1800s commercial chloirne was produced by oxidation of HCl with manganese dioxide or air. I expect we'd all agree that early pulping and bleaching was done with nearly total disregard for the environment (not intentional disregard, but because industry was likely unaware of the problem brewing). I don't know the size of Beaver Lake, or how many if any mills it supported, or if there was a chlorine plant on site to support pulp bleaching, but logic suggests the whole thing is related to pulp bleaching. You brought up this study as evidence of some point. Would you please let us know what industry was on this lake and when, so we can draw some intelligent conclusion from the data? Connie ================================ My comment: Some of the recent postingson back yard burning are based on test results that are skewed. *The majority of backyard burning occurs in rural areas, but the assumed contents of the burn barrel are based on studies from urban areas. *Conclusions were based on an incinerator based on a destruction and removal efficiency that is rarely achieved (not even during demonstration burns) with an unstated assumed fuel mix that may or maynot be similar to that in the hypothetical barrel. *The study report was published (sponsored by?) the Journal of the American chemical Society. =============================== In response to the suggestion in the study report that the "study could help resolve a long-standing discrepany as a result of a 1994 EPA assesment that identified a "significant gap" between estimates of dioxin estimates and actual deposition measurements..."; I would suggest that EPA look at a source that they have carefully ignored: The dioxins produced in wood-fired boilers that include sludge and salty hogged fuel in their fuel mix. 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Greetings All,
 
in spite of my resolve not to get draged into this, I am in.  = I offer=20 the comments shown below.
 
Carl Larkins
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 superjicb
To: dioxin-l@lists.essential.org =
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 = 9:22=20 AM
Subject: [Dioxin-l] Reply

David,

Your comment:

> One of the interesting things is that erring = on the=20 side of caution can have its costs. So currently, the US EPA estimates = daily=20 intake of dioxin TEQs as 1-4 ng/kg, or 100-400 times greater than the = EPA=20 recommended intake. It is not clear how one would get the level of = dioxin TEQ=20 intake down by 400 fold; it would certainly be an expensive = undertaking. Some=20 estimates are that it would cost in excess of the US GNP to reduce = dioxin=20 intakes to the US EPA
recommended levels; clearly you would only = want to=20 spend that money if there were to be a tangible benefit.

My reply:

One of the interesting things is that erring on = the side of=20 risk can have is costs, both to human health, shorter life spans, and = to the=20 economy in the form of high medical bills, lost productivity, = etc.  I=20 cannot comment on the validity of the EPAs numbers but plain old = common sense=20 tells me that here we are not even talking about erring on the side of = risk.  If scientists already think our dioxin intake is too high, = then we=20 are talking about blatent disregard. This only makes it more = urgent that=20 we move quickly to do what we can to stop from increasing dioxin = levels even=20 further.  The answer is not to throw up our hands and give = up. =20
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My comment:

If there have been benifits from products that = spawn=20 dioxin, those benificaries should bear the cost of any harm caused by = dioxin=20 and
the cost of preventing dioxin from causing = additional=20 harm.   Especially in those cases where alternatives exist, = stock=20 hoders and others who reap chlorine profits are passing dioxin related = costs=20 on to future generations.

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Your comment:
> > > Given the = recent=20 postings about production of dioxins from uncontrolled burning, it may = well be=20 that the level of dioxin in the 1800s largely stemmed from the = incineration=20 that the local populace undertook. It clearly wasn't the chemical=20 industry.

 My initial reply:
> >Why is it = clear=20 chemicals were not implicated?

 Your reply:
> There was next to no=20 organochlorine chemical industry in the late 1800s, and
> = precious=20 little in America. Compare with hundreds of millions of tons of =
>=20 organochlorines produced in the 60s; as far as I am aware, there = wasn't the=20
> technology to make, transport or a market to sell a million = tons of=20
> organochlorine compound in the 1800s. So where did the = environmental=20 dioxin
> production come from in the 1800s? It still amounted = to 10% of=20 current
> levels. I guess I can only think of uncontrolled = burning; all=20 suggestions
> welcome.

My reply:

I can come up with a reason other than = uncontrolled burning=20 that would implicate chlorine.  When we talked about dioxin in = the late=20 1800s it was related to the Beaver Lake dioxin in sludge study that = you=20 brought to our attention.  We all know chemical pulping occurs on = large=20 bodies of water.  I = think we both=20 agreed that the mid 1950s dioxin contamination of this lake likely = came from=20 chlorine bleaching of pulp.   What is in contention is what = occurred=20 early on.  Successful chemical pulping began in about 1851 and to = the=20 best of my knowledge, pulp was bleached with chlorine even before = chemical=20 pulping became the standard.  = In the=20 early 1800s British scientists already knew how to produce chlorine=20 electrochemically, but because electricity was so expensive = electrochemical=20 chlorine production did not occur until the 1900s, and in the 1800s = commercial=20 chloirne was produced by oxidation of HCl with manganese dioxide or = air. =20 I expect we'd all agree that early pulping and bleaching was = done with=20 nearly total disregard for the environment (not intentional disregard, = but=20 because industry was likely unaware of the problem brewing).   I don't know the size = of Beaver=20 Lake, or how many if any mills it supported, or if there was a = chlorine plant=20 on site to support pulp bleaching, but logic suggests the whole thing = is=20 related to pulp bleaching.  You brought up this study as evidence = of some=20 point.  Would you please let us know what industry was on this = lake and=20 when, so we can draw some intelligent conclusion from the data?

Connie
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My=20 comment:
 
Some=20 of the recent postingson back yard burning are based on test results = that are=20 skewed.
*The=20 majority of backyard burning occurs in rural areas, but the assumed = contents=20 of the burn barrel are based on studies from urban areas.
*Conclusions=20 were based on an incinerator based on a destruction and removal = efficiency=20 that is rarely achieved (not even during demonstration burns) with an = unstated=20 assumed fuel mix that may or maynot be similar to that in the = hypothetical=20 barrel.
*The=20 study report was published (sponsored by?) the Journal of the American = chemical Society.
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In=20 response to the suggestion in the study report that the "study could = help=20 resolve a long-standing discrepany as a result of a 1994=20 EPA   assesment that identified a "significant gap" = between=20 estimates of dioxin estimates and actual deposition=20 measurements...";
I=20 would suggest that EPA look at a source that they have carefully = ignored: The=20 dioxins produced in wood-fired boilers that include sludge and salty = hogged=20 fuel in their fuel mix.
 
 
Carl=20 Larkins
------=_NextPart_000_003D_01BF5C5F.A03A7F60-- From jon@cqs.com Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:53:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:53:22 -0500 From: Jon Campbell jon@cqs.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine in drinkingwater distr... Carl, I'm not aware of any lead leaching in PVC water tubing, but then again I don't know whether they use lead or other metals in tubing. The whole lead issue was a new one to me a couple of years ago, when Greenpeace blew the whistle on it for baby toys; since then I have become aware that it is used in wire covering and seat covers. Pat, do you know anything about this? Regards Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine in drinkingwater distr... > Jon, > > I understand that many PVC products contain organo-metalic compounds which > serve as stabilizers ( I believe), hence the lead dust hazard on PVC mini > blinds. > Any known leaching of these? > > Carl > > > _______________________________________________ > Dioxin-l mailing list > Dioxin-l@lists.essential.org > http://lists.essential.org/mailman/listinfo/dioxin-l > From jon@cqs.com Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:19:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:19:23 -0500 From: Jon Campbell jon@cqs.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re:Reply Connie, David's disruption of the list has put people on edge, and people start questioning each other's motives. That is too bad, we all need to be focusing on stopping dioxin exposure, not questioning each other. I'm sure you meant well and were as outraged at David's postings as many of us have been. I can't speak for Tony, but I believe there was a discussion of the chlorine disinfectant issue on the list quite a while ago. In any case, Pat Costner's latest posting on the issue should have set to rest the notion that chlorine is a good water disinfectant. Its efficacy is a popular myth that is continued by the chlorine industry. This is not much different than triple-bypass surgery for heart disease, mercury amalgam fillings for teeth, fluoride in water, AZT for AIDS, chemotherapy and radiation for cancer, and any of a number of other "accepted" practices. Drill down just a few millimeters below the surface and you find they're statistical (or outright) shams. That is the nature of true scientific discovery on the part of ordinary people: we come experts, leaving the physicians and corporate researchers (whose income derives from those "accepted practices" and their corporate promoters) way behind. Cheers and regards Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "superjicb" To: ; "Tony Tweedale" Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [Dioxin-l] Re:Reply > Tony, > > Maybe I'm not explaining what I think clearly enough. Also maybe after > working almost 15 years altogether in the chemical industry (two firms) > there are concepts that I did not question that I should have questioned. > I've monitored this board for a long time without comment. I only commented > because I found David so outrageous. Trust that the intent of my posts were > pro human health (and therefore pro environmental health). > > Drawing my data from published sources, in the US today we use about 4% of > chlorine for water treatment, and most of the 4% is for primary and > secondary water treatment. My guess is that about 5% of the 4% is used in > residual water treatment. Multiplying the number out shows that I was > indicating that it could be necessary to continue to use .2% of all chlorine > made intentionally in the US for the purpose of residual water treatment. > That is a fifth of one percent. I said this because I personally did not > know of any viable replacement for chlorine in residual treatment, and it > was my understanding that residual treatment is necessary for human health. > Over the years I cannot tell you how often I read and heard that > environmental advocates were fanatics for wanting to ban chlorine from water > treatment. One way to stop this undeserved bad press is to concede using > chlorine where it makes sense. If I'm wrong about my belief that chlorine > is needed for residual water treatment, then fine, help me learn. If I am > right, then it is my belief that environmental advocates should support > chlorine in this tiny application, while they look for safer alternatives. > Sometimes you need to be willing to lose a battle to win the war, especially > where human health is at stake, and when perception is an important > consideration, and when your educational budget is a small percent of their > PR and lobbying budgets. > > PVC end uses are no mystery and I do not personally know of any uses where > PVC is a must-have. If special uses exist, I imagine that they would > require a fraction of a percent of today's PVC demand (and that means an > even smaller fraction of a percent of today's chlorine demand). In my > opinion PVC pipes, siding, car panels, etc., are not needed and all should > go. > > For the last two years I've only followed environmental issues as a passive > observer, but David's statements were so defeating, that they outraged me to > comment, albeit without the data needed to refute much of what he had to > say. If I'm wrong David, please let us know who you work for and what your > position is and why you asked these specific questions. > > I'm the kind of person who needs to read it myself to believe it. I had no > information to deny David's indication that dioxin levels in the US are > already well in excess of what the EPA has determined we can tolerate. But > I found it suspect that David's questions indicated that the cost of > decreasing dioxin may not be worth the effort because nature makes more > chlorine than the EPA finds tolerable -- yes David - logic tells us that if > you indicate that late 1800s dioxin levels are natural because there was no > industry at that time, and you combine this concept with the concept that > you held forth that dioxin is already way over EPA acceptable levels, then > you are indicating that NATURE makes more chlorine than the US EPA finds > tolerable. I wondered if this was just your personal view or if industry > was propagating it, but even without data, plain old logic told me that if I > accept that we have moved beyond safe levels of dioxin in our environment, > that it becomes even more urgent to immediately stop producing more dioxin. > > Tony, I want to make it clear to you that while I can now see your point, > that my statement was proffered to debate Davids, not to imply that dioxin > is safe at some specific level. I'd like to imagine that I think for > myself, but I recognize that altogether I worked about 15 years in the > chemical industry and that I've been inundated with the idea that "the dose > makes the difference." I never saw a problem with accepting this concept > until you questioned my motives. You wrote: "Other posts from these people > have similarly been couched in reasonable sounding arguments but were > actually quite radical arguments--eg that dioxin in the env is safe if at a > certain level." This obviously questioned my motives and at first I was > upset because my motives were on the side of human health, but then I calmed > down and starting thinking about it. > > Dose normally refers to medicine or cures, but in general terms industry > tends to use it to include toxins. Therefore, the question posed by > industry is more or less: "at what level is a dose of poison acceptable." I > accept that it is difficult to give credibility to any specific number, > especially because scientists change their mind so often, and have such > disparate views. Also, when you combine science with politics - which is > what the EPA is all about, you must factor in ulterior motives. And how do > you do this? If you assume that at a point in time the EPA is pro-industry, > then you recognize that they can benefit industry by saying (for example) > that intolerable levels are any level greater than 1, but that today we are > only at .006 so we don't have to worry. Or they can say that intolerable > levels are 1 but nature produces 1,000 - so the situation is helpless -- > which seemed to me to be David's message, and I found the message > intolerable - David correct me if I am wrong. > > Considering all factors, the only thing that makes sense to me is that we > accept the amount of dioxin that nature makes, as the maximum tolerable > level, and that we are therefore very careful to ensure that we work hard > towards making sure that we make NONE ourselves. I say this because poison > is poison, and there are too many variables to consider, and about the only > thing that we can count on is that we can measure how much there is right > now and "maybe" compare that to what used to be. I say "maybe" when I refer > to historical samples, because we determine historical levels by digging > holes in the ground to certain depths, and taking samples from what we > believe are levels of historical significance. The problem with these > samples is that the dioxin in the sample may have been formed sometime after > the historical period that we believe the sample came from. Or maybe there > was MORE dioxin present at the time of historical significance and over time > the dioxin that had been present broke down, which would lead us to believe > that there was less dioxin present in the past than there really was. > Either way the only thing we can be sure of is that we really don't know. > All we know is that any species that cannot survive in nature dies out, and > that we are still around. > > Making core sample slides for oil exploration was something that I did to > put myself through college. I have since observed that if man could really > depend on the chemistry of core samples, man would not be drilling so many > dry wells. The only one thing we know for sure about nature and dioxin is > that so far nature has been kind, and has not made more dioxin than man can > tolerate. I'm personally grateful for this and I think we all should be > grateful. The one thing we can say about man, is that logic leads us to > believe that man has made more dioxin than man can tolerate. > > Tony, I hope this has clarified my position and that I've redeemed myself > from being included as one of "these people." > > Connie Hansson > > From: Tony Tweedale > > Some posts from these people have been logical, others not. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dioxin-l mailing list > Dioxin-l@lists.essential.org > http://lists.essential.org/mailman/listinfo/dioxin-l > From carllark@olypen.com Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:44:56 -0800 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:44:56 -0800 From: Carl Larkins carllark@olypen.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Reply Be careful. Under given circumstances, some congeners degrade more rapidlym than others, plus, we Know nothing about the breakdown process. Does a highly chlorinated conger break down to ?? Carl Larkins ----- Original Message ----- From: Henshel, Diane S. To: 'superjicb ' ; Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 4:49 PM Subject: RE: [Dioxin-l] Reply : It seems to me the argument below could be settled with congener analysis. : Since incineration produces primarily the PCDFs and relatively little TCDD, : it should have a clear chemical signature very distinct from the chemical : signature released by kraft pulp bleaching processes, in which there is a : high percentage of TCDD contamination. : Has anyone got the congener data? : : Your comment: : > > > Given the recent postings about production of dioxins from : uncontrolled burning, it may well be that the level of dioxin in the : 1800s largely stemmed from the incineration that the local populace : undertook. It clearly wasn't the chemical industry. : : My initial reply: : > >Why is it clear chemicals were not implicated? : : Your reply: : > There was next to no organochlorine chemical industry in the late : 1800s, and : > precious little in America. Compare with hundreds of millions of tons : of : > organochlorines produced in the 60s; as far as I am aware, there : wasn't the : > technology to make, transport or a market to sell a million tons of : > organochlorine compound in the 1800s. So where did the environmental : dioxin : > production come from in the 1800s? It still amounted to 10% of current : : > levels. I guess I can only think of uncontrolled burning; all : suggestions : > welcome. : : My reply: : : I can come up with a reason other than uncontrolled burning that would : implicate chlorine. When we talked about dioxin in the late 1800s it : was related to the Beaver Lake dioxin in sludge study that you brought : to our attention. We all know chemical pulping occurs on large bodies : of water. I think we both agreed that the mid 1950s dioxin : contamination of this lake likely came from chlorine bleaching of pulp. : What is in contention is what occurred early on. Successful chemical : pulping began in about 1851 and to the best of my knowledge, pulp was : bleached with chlorine even before chemical pulping became the standard. : In the early 1800s British scientists already knew how to produce : chlorine electrochemically, but because electricity was so expensive : electrochemical chlorine production did not occur until the 1900s, and : in the 1800s commercial chloirne was produced by oxidation of HCl with : manganese dioxide or air. I expect we'd all agree that early pulping : and bleaching was done with nearly total disregard for the environment : (not intentional disregard, but because industry was likely unaware of : the problem brewing). I don't know the size of Beaver Lake, or how : many if any mills it supported, or if there was a chlorine plant on site : to support pulp bleaching, but logic suggests the whole thing is related : to pulp bleaching. You brought up this study as evidence of some point. : Would you please let us know what industry was on this lake and when, so : we can draw some intelligent conclusion from the data? : : Connie : : : _______________________________________________ : Dioxin-l mailing list : Dioxin-l@lists.essential.org : http://lists.essential.org/mailman/listinfo/dioxin-l : From superjicb@email.msn.com Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:19:39 -0800 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:19:39 -0800 From: superjicb superjicb@email.msn.com Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re:Reply TO ALL - Regarding my statement: "nature makes more chlorine than the EPA finds tolerable -- yes David - logic tells us that if you indicate that late 1800s dioxin levels are natural because there was no industry at that time, and you combine this concept with the concept that you held forth that dioxin is already way over EPA acceptable levels, then you are indicating that NATURE makes more chlorine than the US EPA finds tolerable." Of course this was incorrect -- I meant to say it meant nature makes more DIOXIN than EPA finds tolerable, not more chlorine. Connie From ntangri@essential.org Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:37:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:37:59 -0500 From: Neil Tangri ntangri@essential.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] R.P. case bares inadequacy of waste rules http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/index-e.htm January 12, 2000 Govt begins unloading batch of waste returned from R.P. Yomiuri Shimbun A government-chartered vessel carrying a large amount of garbage--including hazardous hospital waste that was illegally exported to the Philippines by a Japanese company--arrived in Tokyo on Tuesday, and workers began unloading the 122 containers at Oi Pier. Police will soon launch a full-scale investigation into the garbage shipment that is believed to be a violatation of the Basel Convention on the shipment of hazardous waste. It is the first time that the government has recovered such waste since the international convention came into effect eight years ago. The government will likely pay the 60 million yen transportation cost and other costs, such as incineration expenses, which will total more than 100 million yen, for Nisso Ltd., an industrial waste disposal company located in Oyama, Tochigi Prefecture, as the company president is reportedly missing. The MV Pulsar that transported the waste docked at about 7:20 a.m., and officials from the International Trade and Industry Ministry and the Environment Agency were present at the unloading. Investigators from the Tochigi and Nagano prefectural police confirmed the arrival of the containers. The containers weighed about 2,700 tons in total. Ayako Sekine, 31, a member of Greenpeace Japan, who was watching the containers being unloaded at the pier said she was ashamed about the garbage shipment to the Philippines because it caused "profound distrust toward Japan in the international community." "The government should strengthen its supervision to prevent such an incident from being repeated," she said. "Our organization will continue to monitor the disposal of the waste." The Health and Welfare Ministry, the Environment Agency and MITI issued orders to Nisso, at about 11 a.m., to correctly dispose of the garbage. Tuesday was the deadline for the government to recover the garbage under the Basel Convention. The government received an official report from the Philippine government about the illegal shipment in December. The government sent inspectors to the Philippines to investigate the claim, and they confirmed that the garbage contained infectious hospital waste such as used hypodermic needles and containers of intravenous drips. The government then ordered Nisso to recover the garbage while accusing it of violating the Foreign Exchange and Foreign Trade Control Law on Dec. 24. An Environment Agency official said, "We had to act promptly as a Philippine newspaper wrote that the shipment was 'Japan's third invasion following the war and economic invasion.' Otherwise, it would have become a serious diplomatic issue." Mitsuo Ohashi, chairman of secretariat of the Japan Network on the Waste Landfill, said, "Developing countries tend to be targeted as a destination for garbage in the name of recycling because their environmental regulations are less strict and labor costs are cheaper than those in Japan. We should see the latest incident as the tip of the iceberg." Police find illegal dumping The joint investigation headquarters of the Tochigi and Nagano prefectural police will in a few days start inspecting the recovered garbage on suspicion that its export violated the Foreign Exchange and Foreign Trade Control Law. The headquarters also plans to request a warrant of arrest against Hiromi Ito, 49, the president of the industrial waste disposal company, after searching the company's office and storage facilities. According to the joint investigation team, Ito bought a building materials company in Oyama in late 1997, and converted it into the company's main office. As the regulations on dioxin emissions were tightened, the Tochigi prefectural government instructed the company to upgrade an incineration facility in late 1998. However, before making the necessary improvements to the facility, Nisso applied to the prefectural government to cease operations at the facility in October 1999. Copyright 1999 The Yomiuri Shimbun / R.P. case bares inadequacy of waste rules Yomiuri Shimbun The illegal export of hazardous waste by a Japanese company to the Philippines can only be termed a disgraceful international environmental crime. About 2,700 tons of Japanese garbage in 122 containers was shipped back to Japan on Monday and unloaded Tuesday. The export of the garbage violates the Basel Convention that regulates cross-border transportation of hazardous waste and its disposal. Because, under the convention, an exporting country is responsible for the collection of such waste, the Japanese government chartered a ship for the return of the garbage from the Philippines. The "forced repatriation" of waste was a duty that brings shame upon Japan as a member of the international community. Much of the garbage is infectious and toxic medical waste. Nisso Ltd., an industrial waste-processing company in Tochigi Prefecture, exported the items under the description "waste paper for recycling." The exposure was the first in Japan of large-scale dumping of waste in contravention of international law, but it is doubtful that this is just a one-off isolated incident. It is almost certain that there are other cases in which waste is exported to developing countries with less restrictive regulations under the guise of "resource exports" for recycling. The illegal practice appears to be well established. Leave no stone unturned in investigation Investigative and administrative authorities have a duty to expose the entire process, from start to finish, by which the returned waste turned up in the Philippines, from the firms that produced it to the one that processed it and the Philippine company that imported it. The system with a flaw that allowed the waste to be illegally exported should be reexamined. The current controversy illustrates the seriousness of the waste-disposal problem in Japan. The industrial waste-processing company in question had earlier been found responsible for the illegal dumping of about 8,000 tons of waste in Ibaraki Prefecture, Nagano Prefecture and elsewhere. The company might have stepped up illegal dumping after being forced to shut down incinerators that it failed to upgrade to meet tightened standards for dioxin emissions that were introduced in late December of 1998. It seems that the latest case has revealed a vicious circle in which tighter rules encouraged more illegal dumping, and, in turn, more tightening of controls to follow. One of the offshoots was the illegal exportation to the Philippines. Tackle the problem at its source To break the circle, we must clarify and expand the responsibility of waste producers, thereby tackling the problem at its source. This issue is addressed in a bill for the revision of the Wastes Disposal Law due to be submitted during the next ordinary Diet session. But the current law already stipulates responsibility of waste producers. They are required to record details of waste in a manifesto, hand it to a waste-disposal company and confirm how disposal was made. The reality of the situation is, however, that waste producers consider their responsibility to be at an end at the second the waste is handed over to the disposal firm. Rampant falsification of manifestos enables them to get away with it, making the system of record-keeping null and void. The revision bill would make it mandatory for waste producers to verify correct disposal in line with details recorded on manifestos. The producer knows best about the content and composition of its waste and should be made duty-bound to see its disposal through to the end. The revision bill also seeks to lay a level of responsibility with waste producers for the recovery of waste found to have been dumped illegally or improperly disposed of in other ways. This burden must be distributed fairly. It costs several hundreds of millions of yen to dispose of waste shipped back to Japan. The cost will be borne by the Environment Agency, Health and Welfare and International Trade and Industry ministries instead of the waste-disposal company. Despite the extent of the disgrace, we must seize the opportunity presented by the latest illegal exportation case to formulate a new waste-disposal policy. From ntangri@essential.org Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:25:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:25:27 -0500 From: Neil Tangri ntangri@essential.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] WB tries to build incinerator in Philippines Hi folks, As you probably have heard, there is now a legal ban on incineration in place in the Philippines. In spite of this, the International Finance Corporation, the private-sector lending arm of the World Bank, is attempting to finance the construction of a medical waste incinerator as part of a new high-end hospital near Manila. The documents are available at: http://www.worldbank.org/pics/ifcers/phe09503.txt http://www.worldbank.org/pics/ifcspi/phs09503.txt Neil From ntangri@essential.org Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:26:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:26:41 -0500 From: Neil Tangri ntangri@essential.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] another dastardly World Bank project Here's another project by the same arm of the World Bank, which would greatly increase the quantity of medical waste sent to an existing incinerator in Vietnam: http://www.worldbank.org/pics/ifcers/vne08137.txt If you're interested in any of these documents and can't download them, I"ll be happy to email them to you as plain text. Neil From ARNOLD.SCHECTER@email.swmed.edu Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:58:41 -0600 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:58:41 -0600 From: Arnold Schecter ARNOLD.SCHECTER@email.swmed.edu Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine in drinkingwater distribution Dear Pat: Did you see the CNN transcript of their rebroadcast of CBS 60 = Minute Agent Orange show with junkscience.com man getting last words ! ? = -Broadcast to Asia and Europe. -Arnold From pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:43:35 -0600 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:43:35 -0600 From: pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine in drinkingwater distribution Hi, Arnold Good to hear from you! No, I missed that. If you still have it and it's easy, please forward it. Best regards, Pat On 12 Jan 00, at 13:58, Arnold Schecter wrote: Re: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlo > Dear Pat: Did you see the CNN transcript of their rebroadcast of CBS 60 > Minute Agent Orange show with junkscience.com man getting last words ! ? > -Broadcast to Asia and Europe. -Arnold > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat Costner Greenpeace P.O. Box 548 or 512 County Road 2663 Eureka Springs, Arkansas 72632 ph: 1 501 253 8440 fx: 1 501 253 5540 em: pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ttweed@wildrockies.org Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:45:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:45:39 -0700 From: Tony Tweedale ttweed@wildrockies.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] Supremes rule 7-2 for citizen standing to sue!!! I've followed this and relted cases some, but of course I'm not intimate w/ the arguments--yet this seems a quite unexpected and a huge repudiation of Scalia and other fed judges recent successes in taking away citizen suits! Inter alia, now CHEER's ground-breaking pollution prevention consent decree w/ Smurfit-Stone Container has a greater chance of being duplicated elsewhere. -- From: "Peter W. Martin" To: Subject: LIIBULLETIN, Wednesday January 12 (4 cases) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:36:07 -0500 --------------------------------------------------------------- AN E-BULLETIN LEGAL INFORMATION INSTITUTE -- CORNELL LAW SCHOOL lii@lii.law.cornell.edu --------------------------------------------------------------- The following decisions have just arrived via the LII's direct Project HERMES feed from the Supreme Court. These are not the decisions themselves nor excerpts from them, but summaries (syllabi) prepared by the Court's Reporter of Decisions. Instructions for accessing the full text of any of these decisions are provided at the end of this bulletin, as are instructions for subscribing in the event that this bulletin has been given you by a colleague and you'd like a subscription of your own. =============================================================== FRIENDS OF EARTH, INC. v. LAIDLAW ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES (TOC), INC. (98-822) Web-accessible at: http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/98-822.ZS.html Argued October 12, 1999 -- Decided January 12, 2000 Opinion author: Ginsburg =============================================================== Defendant-respondent Laidlaw Environmental Services (TOC), Inc., bought a facility in Roebuck, South Carolina, that included a wastewater treatment plant. Shortly thereafter, the South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control (DHEC), acting under the Clean Water Act (Act), 33 U.S.C. sect. 1342(a)(1), granted Laidlaw a National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) permit. The permit authorized Laidlaw to discharge treated water into the North Tyger River, but limited, among other things, the discharge of pollutants into the waterway. Laidlaw began to discharge various pollutants into the waterway; these discharges, particularly of mercury, an extremely toxic pollutant, repeatedly exceeded the limits set by the permit. On April 10, 1992, plaintiff-petitioners Friends of the Earth and Citizens Local Environmental Action Network, Inc. (referred to collectively here, along with later joined plaintiff-petitioner Sierra Club, as "FOE"), notified Laidlaw of their intention to file a citizen suit against it under the Act, 33 U.S.C. sect. 1365(a), after the expiration of the requisite 60-day notice period. DHEC acceded to Laidlaw's request to file a lawsuit against the company. On the last day before FOE's 60-day notice period expired, DHEC and Laidlaw reached a settlement requiring Laidlaw to pay $100,000 in civil penalties and to make "every effort" to comply with its permit obligations. On June 12, 1992, FOE filed this citizen suit against Laidlaw, alleging noncompliance with the NPDES permit and seeking declaratory and injunctive relief and an award of civil penalties. Laidlaw moved for summary judgment on the ground that FOE lacked Article III standing to bring the lawsuit. After examining affidavits and deposition testimony from members of the plaintiff organizations, the District Court denied the motion, finding that the plaintiffs had standing. The District Court also denied Laidlaw's motion to dismiss on the ground that the citizen suit was barred under sect.1365(b)(1)(B) by DHEC's prior action against the company. After FOE initiated this suit, but before the District Court rendered judgment on January 22, 1997, Laidlaw violated the mercury discharge limitation in its permit 13 times and committed 13 monitoring and 10 reporting violations. In issuing its judgment, the District Court found that Laidlaw had gained a total economic benefit of $1,092,581 as a result of its extended period of noncompliance with the permit's mercury discharge limit; nevertheless, the court concluded that a civil penalty of $405,800 was appropriate. In particular, the District Court found that the judgment's "total deterrent effect" would be adequate to forestall future violations, given that Laidlaw would have to reimburse the plaintiffs for a significant amount of legal fees and had itself incurred significant legal expenses. The court declined to order injunctive relief because Laidlaw, after the lawsuit began, had achieved substantial compliance with the terms of its permit. FOE appealed as to the amount of the District Court's civil penalty judgment, but did not appeal the denial of declaratory or injunctive relief. The Fourth Circuit vacated the District Court's order and remanded with instructions to dismiss the action. Assuming, arguendo, that FOE initially had standing, the appellate court held that the case had become moot once Laidlaw complied with the terms of its permit and the plaintiffs failed to appeal the denial of equitable relief. Citing Steel Co. v. Citizens for Better Environment, 523 U.S. 83, the court reasoned that the only remedy currently available to FOE, civil penalties payable to the Government, would not redress any injury FOE had suffered. The court added that FOE's failure to obtain relief on the merits precluded recovery of attorneys' fees or costs because such an award is available only to a "prevailing or substantially prevailing party" under sect.1365(d). According to Laidlaw, the entire Roebuck facility has since been permanently closed, dismantled, and put up for sale, and all discharges from the facility have permanently ceased. Held: The Fourth Circuit erred in concluding that a citizen suitor's claim for civil penalties must be dismissed as moot when the defendant, after commencement of the litigation, has come into compliance with its NPDES permit. Pp. 8-25. (a) The Constitution's case-or-controversy limitation on federal judicial authority, Art. III, sect.2, underpins both standing and mootness doctrine, but the two inquiries differ in crucial respects. Because the Fourth Circuit was persuaded that the case had become moot, it simply assumed that FOE had initial standing. See Arizonans for Official English v. Arizona, 520 U.S. 43, 66-67. But because this Court concludes that the Court of Appeals erred as to mootness, this Court has an obligation to assure itself that FOE had Article III standing at the outset of the litigation. Pp. 8-9. (b) FOE had Article III standing to bring this action. This Court has held that to satisfy Article III's standing requirements, a plaintiff must show "injury in fact," causation, and redressability. Lujan v. Defenders of Wildlife, 504 U.S. 555, 560-561. An association has standing to bring suit on behalf of its members when its members would have standing to sue in their own right, the interests at stake are germane to the organization's purpose, and neither the claim asserted nor the relief requested requires individual members' participation in the lawsuit. Hunt v. Washington State Apple Advertising Comm'n, 432 U.S. 333, 343. The relevant showing for Article III standing is not injury to the environment but injury to the plaintiff. To insist on the former rather than the latter is to raise the standing hurdle higher than the necessary showing for success on the merits in a citizen's NPDES permit enforcement suit. Here, injury in fact was adequately documented by the affidavits and testimony of FOE members asserting that Laidlaw's pollutant discharges, and the affiants' reasonable concerns about the effects of those discharges, directly affected those affiants' recreational, aesthetic, and economic interests. See, e.g., Sierra Club v. Morton, 405 U.S. 727, 735. These submissions present dispositively more than the mere "general averments" and "conclusory allegations" found inadequate in Lujan v. National Wildlife Federation, 497 U.S. 871, 888, or the " 'some day' intentions" to visit endangered species halfway around the world held insufficient in Defenders of Wildlife. 504 U.S., at 564. Pp. 9-13. (c) Laidlaw argues that FOE lacked standing to seek civil penalties payable to the Government, because such penalties offer no redress to citizen plaintiffs. For a plaintiff who is injured or threatened with injury due to illegal conduct ongoing at the time of suit, a sanction that effectively abates that conduct and prevents its recurrence provides a form of redress. Civil penalties can fit that description. Insofar as they encourage defendants to discontinue current violations and deter future ones, they afford redress to citizen plaintiffs injured or threatened with injury as a result of ongoing unlawful conduct. The Court need not explore the outer limits of the principle that civil penalties provide sufficient deterrence to support redressability, because the civil penalties sought here carried a deterrent effect that made it likely, as opposed to merely speculative, that the penalties would redress FOE's injuries--as the District Court reasonably found when it assessed a penalty of $405,800. Steel Co. is not to the contrary. That case held that private plaintiffs may not sue to assess penalties for wholly past violations, 523 U.S., at 106-107, but did not address standing to seek penalties for violations ongoing at the time of the complaint that could continue into the future if undeterred, see id., at 108. Pp. 13-17. (d) FOE's civil penalties claim did not automatically become moot once the company came into substantial compliance with its permit. A defendant's voluntary cessation of a challenged practice ordinarily does not deprive a federal court of its power to determine the legality of the practice. City of Mesquite v. Aladdin's Castle, Inc., 455 U.S. 283, 289. If it did, courts would be compelled to leave the defendant free to return to its old ways. Thus, the standard for determining whether a case has been mooted by the defendant's voluntary conduct is stringent: A case might become moot if subsequent events make it absolutely clear that the allegedly wrongful behavior could not reasonably be expected to recur. United States v. Concentrated Phosphate Export Assn., Inc., 393 U.S. 199, 203. The heavy burden of persuading the court that the challenged conduct cannot reasonably be expected to recur lies with the party asserting mootness. Ibid. The Court of Appeals incorrectly conflated this Court's case law on initial standing, see, e.g., Steel Co., with its case law on mootness, see, e.g., City of Mesquite. Such confusion is understandable, given this Court's repeated description of mootness as "the doctrine of standing set in a time frame: The requisite personal interest that must exist at the commencement of the litigation (standing) must continue throughout its existence (mootness)." E.g., Arizonans, 520 U.S., at 68, n. 22. Careful reflection, however, reveals that this description of mootness is not comprehensive. For example, a defendant claiming that its voluntary compliance moots a case bears a formidable burden. By contrast, it is the plaintiff's burden, in a lawsuit brought to force compliance, to establish standing by demonstrating that, if unchecked by the litigation, the defendant's allegedly wrongful behavior will likely occur or continue and that the threatened injury is certainly impending. Whitmore v. Arkansas, 495 U.S. 149, 158. The plain lesson is that there are circumstances in which the prospect that a defendant will engage in (or resume) harmful conduct may be too speculative to support standing, but not too speculative to overcome mootness. Further, if mootness were simply "standing set in a time frame," the exception to mootness for acts that are "capable of repetition, yet evading review" could not exist. See, e.g., Olmstead v. L. C., 527 U.S. ___, ___, n. 6. Standing admits of no similar exception; if a plaintiff lacks standing at the time the action commences, the fact that the dispute is capable of repetition yet evading review will not entitle the complainant to a federal judicial forum. See, e.g., Steel Co., 523 U.S., at 109. Standing doctrine ensures, among other things, that the resources of the federal courts are devoted to disputes in which the parties have a concrete stake. Yet by the time mootness is an issue, abandonment of the case may prove more wasteful than frugal. Courts have no license to retain jurisdiction over cases in which one or both of the parties plainly lacks a continuing interest, see, e.g., Arizonans, 520 U.S., at 67, but the foregoing examples highlight an important difference between the two doctrines, see generally Honig v. Doe, 484 U.S. 305, 329-332 (Rehnquist, C. J., concurring). Laidlaw's argument that FOE doomed its own civil penalty claim to mootness by failing to appeal the denial of injunctive relief misconceives the statutory scheme. Under sect.1365(a), the district court has discretion to determine which form of relief is best suited to abate current violations and deter future ones. See Weinberger v. Romero&nbhyph;Barcelo, 456 U.S. 305, 313. Denial of injunctive relief does not necessarily mean that the district court has concluded there is no prospect of future violations to deter. Indeed, it meant no such thing in this case; the District Court denied injunctive relief, but expressly based its award of civil penalties on the need for deterrence. A district court properly may conclude that an injunction would be too intrusive, because it could entail continuing and burdensome superintendence of the permit holder's activities by a federal court. See City of Mesquite, 455 U.S., at 289. Both Laidlaw's permit compliance and the facility closure might moot this case, but only if one or the other event made it absolutely clear that violations could not reasonably be expected to recur. Concentrated Phosphate Export Assn., 393 U.S., at 203. These are disputed factual matters that have not been aired in the lower courts; they remain open for consideration on remand. Pp. 18-23. (e) This Court does not resolve FOE's argument that it is entitled to attorneys' fees on the theory that a plaintiff can be a "prevailing party" under sect.1365(d) if it was the "catalyst" that triggered a favorable outcome. Although the Circuits have divided as to the continuing validity of the catalyst theory following Farrar v. Hobby, 506 U.S. 103, it would be premature for this Court to address the question here. The District Court stayed the time for a petition for attorneys' fees until the time for appeal had expired or until any appeal was resolved. Thus, when the Fourth Circuit addressed the availability of counsel fees, no order was before it either denying or awarding fees. It is for the District Court, not this Court, to address in the first instance any request for reimbursement of costs, including fees. Pp. 23-25. 149 F.3d 303, reversed and remanded. Ginsburg, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which Rehnquist, C. J., and Stevens, O'Connor, Kennedy, Souter, and Breyer, JJ., joined. Stevens, J., and Kennedy, J., filed concurring opinions. Scalia, J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which Thomas, J., joined. =============================================================== From ntangri@essential.org Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:38:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:38:06 -0500 From: Neil Tangri ntangri@essential.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] Right To Sue Polluters Upheld http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/w/AP-Scotus-Clean-Water.html January 12, 2000 Right To Sue Polluters Upheld Filed at 6:36 p.m. EST By The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) -- Private citizens won assurances from the Supreme Court on Wednesday that they can seek enforcement of environmental laws against polluters. The justices, in a 7-2 decision, upheld citizen groups' right to sue an alleged polluter even if the group were not directly harmed by the pollution or could prove financial damages. The ruling also said polluters sued by private citizens cannot necessarily avoid paying damages by stopping their misconduct during litigation. The decision involved the dumping of toxic chemicals into a stream from a South Carolina hazardous waste incinerator. Friends of the Earth and several other environmental groups sued incinerator's operator in 1992, although these groups were not directly harmed by the pollution. The ruling ``assures that citizens ... have the right to go to court to enforce environmental laws,'' said Lois Schiffer, assistant attorney general for environment and natural resources, applauding the court's finding. The case against Laidlaw Environmental Services, operator of the incinerator, was a test of the Clean Water Act's provision that allows private citizens to file lawsuits to help enforce the law. Under the law, citizens can seek an end to misconduct, plus financial penalties to be paid to the federal government. ``This case had the potential to severely limit a citizen's ability to enforce the Clean Water Act.,'' said Brian Dunkiel of Friends of the Earth. ``We ... are pleased that the court has maintained the status quo'' on citizen participation. The suit dealt with Laidlaw's operation of its waste incinerator in Roebuck, S.C., that discharged wastewater into the North Tyger River. By the time a federal judge ruled on the lawsuit in 1997, Laidlaw had come into compliance of the Clean Water Act. While the judge found that the environmental groups were not entitled to an order to deter future violations, he imposed $405,800 in civil penalties for past violations. A year later, the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals threw out the penalty. It said that once the judge decided not to ban future violations, the only remaining remedy -- a civil penalty -- was not appropriate because it would not benefit the groups who filed suit. Under the law, the money had to be paid to the government. But the Supreme Court said the civil penalty was intended to deter future misconduct, and therefore it would, in fact, benefit the environmental groups. The justices ordered the case returned to a lower court to determine whether Laidlaw could show that the case was moot because future violations could not be expected to occur. ``Congress has found that civil penalties in the Clean Water Act cases do more than promote immediate compliance ... they also deter future violations,'' Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote for the court. ``A defendant's voluntary cessation of allegedly unlawful conduct ordinarily does not suffice to moot a case,'' Ginsburg added. A case might be declared moot if it were clear that the unlawful conduct could not reasonably be expected to reoccur, she said. Ginsburg's opinion was joined by Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Justices John Paul Stevens, Sandra Day O'Connor, Anthony M. Kennedy, David H. Souter and Stephen G. Breyer. Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas dissented. Writing for the two, Scalia said the ruling permited ``law enforcement to be placed in the hands of private individuals.'' The case is Friends of the Earth vs. Laidlaw Environmental Services, 98-822. From ntangri@essential.org Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:40:34 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:40:34 -0500 From: Neil Tangri ntangri@essential.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] Gore's '92 Promise on Incinerator Propels Ohio Demonstrators in '00 http://www.nytimes.com/library/politics/camp/011300wh-dem-gore-promise.html January 13, 2000 THE ELECTORATE Gore's '92 Promise on Incinerator Propels Ohio Demonstrators in '00 By FRANCIS X. CLINES EAST LIVERPOOL, Ohio, Jan. 10 -- An old press release from Vice President-elect Al Gore, issued in the first flush of victory in 1992, is being preserved here like the Magna Carta. And seven years after he issued that release pledging to block the local hazardous-waste incinerator that has become a national environmental cause, the same determined protesters who believed Mr. Gore in 1992 and have dogged him ever since -- staging protests and suffering arrests -- are on his trail once more as he heads for Ohio's presidential primary on March 7. "Maybe he's developed a bit of courage," said Terri Swearingen, a registered nurse and barbed opponent of the toxic chemical waste incinerator, which vents steadily into the air, day after day, just 1,100 feet from an elementary school attended by 400 children in this humble Ohio River Valley town. "This is Gore's broken promise," said Ms. Swearingen, a who has been arrested nine times and who was carried off from one sit-in inside the White House two months into the Clinton-Gore administration, after she found the waste incinerator going into operation despite campaign pledges. "You promised!" she and her colleagues have shouted at the Vice President across Mr. Gore's seven years in office even as the administration insisted it discovered that it was legally unable to block the plant's opening because in the final weeks of the Bush administration approval was granted to test the plant's furnace. "Read your book!" critics have shouted, reminding Mr. Gore, the environmentalist author, of his assertion that he is the nonpareil political watchdog on the issue. In response to questions, Mr. Gore's office said this week that "as promised, we looked exhaustively" at the issue and found the initial test permit from the Bush administration "can't be revoked unless we can prove it violated health and safety standards." At least two reviews could find no violations, said Melissa Bonney Ratcliff, a spokeswoman for the vice president. A month after the Clinton-Gore victory in 1992, Mr. Gore, a leading critic of incineration, promised that the new administration would prevent the plant from opening until Congress investigated its safety and how it had got federal approval. "The very idea of putting it in a flood plain, you know, it's just unbelievable to me," candidate Gore had said of the incinerator when he campaigned in July 1992 in nearby Weirton, W. Va. "We'll be on your side for a change," he promised opponents. In the third month of the new administration, the plant, operated by Waste Technologies Industries, was permitted to begin commercial operation. While Mr. Gore has maintained the incinerator could not be blocked, environmentalists insist it could have been stopped if the Clinton-Gore team had resolved to do so after the election. Ms. Swearingen and other opponents have been fighting the regional commercial incinerator, from proposal to construction, across the past 20 years, turning a mayor out of office here over the issue. In now pointing to the Ohio primary, they are determined to show that a candidate's pledge that goes around, comes around. "We are reminding Mr. Gore of his promise as he runs on his own," said Alonzo Spencer, a retired steel worker who is galvanizing his Save Our County protest group once more at this fresh opportunity to single out the incinerator. In advance of the primary, a dozen organizations, including the environmental group Greenpeace and Ms. Swearingen's Tri-State Environmental Council, have requested a meeting about the incinerator with Vice President Gore, promising there will be no new civil-disobedience disruptions, at least not "at or during this meeting." "We are now feeling that the health effects we first warned about back then are starting to come true," Mr. Spencer said, referring to a state health study in 1997 that reported "strikingly higher" cancer mortality rates for East Liverpool than for the state and nation. The local cancer mortality rate for the four years through 1995 was 235.0 per 100,000, compared with 182.6 for the state and 172.2 for the nation. Mr. Spencer agrees the causes of cancer can be complex and long running, but he insists that opening the plant so close to a school in a troubled region of old steel, foundry and pottery industries "exacerbated an already high-risk situation." A detailed study has been started to search for causal evidence beyond the data, with no definitive tie yet reported to the incinerator. The plant annually burns 63,000 tons of hazardous waste, including lead, mercury and hundreds of other toxic chemicals. Gases and particles from the smokestack, including dioxin, are supposed to be within permissible federal limits, but opponents note that the state fined the plant $126,000 for violations of air monitoring requirements. The plant's proximity to East Elementary School has been underlined in various studies as a potentially risky situation. A state law adopted soon after the incinerator began operating required at least 2,000 feet of separation between schools or homes and any new incinerators, almost double the safety margin here. As the primary approaches, critics are emphasizing that the incinerator has been operating on an interim basis ever since the initial federal permit expired in 1995. So this is the time to press Mr. Gore over the issue once more and try to embarrass him if necessary, according to the opposition, whose prowess is well tested. "I've already talked about this with Bill Bradley," the tireless Ms. Swearingen said of the former New Jersey senator who is challenging the vice president in the primary. "We are always looking for that one person to take this seriously." Rick Hind, legislative director for Greenpeace's campaign against toxic wastes, speculated that Mr. Gore was "assuming the environmental vote is in his pocket." "We went from great hope to great disappointment," Mr. Hind said of the Clinton-Gore team's handling of the East Liverpool issue, in which, he said, they moved from opposition as candidates to their administration's joining the company in defense of the plant in a subsequent lawsuit. Steady as the plume pouring from the incinerator stack, the politics of the March 7 primary are being pursued by small-town environmentalists with a memory for pledges past. "This was their very first environmental promise," Ms. Swearingen said, protecting that 1992 press release. "And it was their first promise broken." From ntangri@essential.org Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:12:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:12:05 -0500 From: Neil Tangri ntangri@essential.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] TOKYO TO NEUTRALIZE BURNT ASH TO COMBAT DIOXIN When Paul Connett & I were in Japan, we saw one incinerator that included a completely-enclosed furnace for the vitrification of fly ash. They used oil to heat the ash hot enough to melt the ash into a glass-like substance, which should make it less likely to contaminate groundwater supplies, etc. I also understand that these temperatures are sufficient to break down the dioxin; but I don't know what keeps it from re-forming in the exhaust. In any case, this is an extremely expensive and energy-intensive operation. The engineers at the plant told us that the vitrification furnace alone consumed more energy than the entire waste-to-energy plant produced. Neil THURSDAY, JANUARY 13, 2000, EVENING EDITION SANKEI (SOCIETY PAGE) 000113E TOKYO TO NEUTRALIZE BURNT ASH TO COMBAT DIOXIN TOKYO =96 The Tokyo metropolitan government decided by January 13 to treat burnt ash with high temperatures to reduce dioxin that is generated in the process of disposing of garbage. The government is planning to apply this measure to all burnt ash generated in the 23 wards by 2006. The measure will be the first to be adopted by prefectural governments. Tokyo=92s flammable waste amounts to three million tons a year. Ash from the incinerators is dumped in the shielded landfill in the Bay of Tokyo so that dioxin won=92t escape into the soil. However, 80% of dioxin generated while disposing of waste still comes from the ash. To trim down the dioxin generation, Tokyo officials decided to build plants which can make slug from the ash by treating it with a temperature of 1,200 degrees or higher. Incineration can reduce the volume of waste of three million tons to ash of 300,000 tons. The new plants can further cut down the volume of ash by half as dioxin becomes harmless compounds. A total cost for the plants is about 64 billion yen. From pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:12:53 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:12:53 -0600 From: pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] Impacts of chlorine-bleaching pulp & paper mills Joy, Perhaps this study is of interest to you as well as others who are in the vicinity of chlorine-bleaching pulp and paper mills. One of the more interesting aspects of this study is bioaccumulation of chemicals that are of a size regarded by some to be too large to bioaccumulate. Pat M. Salkinoja-Salonen, Jussi Uotila, J. Jokela, M. Laine, and E. Saski. Organic Halogens in the Environment: Studies of Environmental Biodegradability and Human Exposure. Environ Health Perspect 103(Suppl 6):00-00 (1995) Abstract Organic halogens from chlorobleaching of kraft pulp were not as biorecalcitrant as has been assumed. Fifty percent were removed during biotreatment of wastewater, and 50% of the remaining organohalogens faded in fresh water ecosystems in 200 to 400 days. Molecular size seemed not to hinder biodegradation up to sizes of approximately 2000 daltons. Anoxic biodegradation was of prime importance for halomineralization of pulp bleaching organohalogens but could also lead to toxic metabolites such as vinyl chloride from tri- and tetrachloroethene in anoxic soil. Indigenous soil microbes were unable to clean old organohalogen pollution but had converted chlorophenols into polymeric substances, chlorohumus which were found bioaccumulable by earthworms in spite of the large (up to 5000 g/mole) molecular sizes. Because of the danger of formation of toxic metabolites, the biochemistry of the xenobiotic degradation must be elucidated before active bioremediation is practiced on polluted soil or water. Groundwater pollution by chlorophenols led to increased disease among the exposed population in one well-studied case. Two further cases of potential environmental health impact are described. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat Costner Greenpeace P.O. Box 548 or 512 County Road 2663 Eureka Springs, Arkansas 72632 ph: 1 501 253 8440 fx: 1 501 253 5540 em: pat.costner@dialb.greenpeace.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From bphata@sedona.net Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:32:25 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:32:25 -0700 From: Bill Patterson bphata@sedona.net Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re: Poor efficacy of residual chlorine indrinkingwater distribution At 01:58 PM 1/12/00 -0600, Arnold Schecter wrote: >Dear Pat: Did you see the CNN transcript of their rebroadcast of CBS 60 Minute >Agent Orange show with junkscience.com man getting last words ! ? -Broadcast to >Asia and Europe. -Arnold Do any of you know how to get a copy of the above. Thanks in advance, Bill Patterson Sedona, Arizona <<><<
http://www.kachina.net/~bphata/medprobs.htm From MPU_Labor@t-online.de Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:58:50 +0100 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:58:50 +0100 From: mpu_labor MPU_Labor@t-online.de Subject: [Dioxin-l] EU and food safety Hello, the European Commission published on January 12, 2000 a more than 50 pages strong white paper on food safety. Main points in this paper are the establishment of an independent European Food Authority until 2002 and the improofment of the food safety standards in all EU countries. It is the consequence in particular of the Belgian dioxin scandal in 1999. A copy of the white paper is available at: http://www.dioxins.de/english.htm or http://www.dioxine.de/deutsch.htm L.Müller labor@mpu-gmbh.de From ttweed@wildrockies.org Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:57:59 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:57:59 -0700 From: Tony Tweedale ttweed@wildrockies.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] EPA agrees to ITC's voluntary data for APE's "II. What is the Purpose of Today's Action? ...Specifically at the request of the ITC in a letter to EPA dated September 15, 1997, EPA is not issuing a final TSCA section 8(d) ``Unpublished Health and Safety Data'' reporting rule at this time for the 23 nonylphenol ethoxylates recommended for testing in the 39th ITC Report so as to give the ITC an opportunity to implement the voluntary information submission policy that was proposed in the ITC's 40th Report (62 FR 30580, June 4, 1997) (FRL-5718-3). ... EPA reserves the right to issue a TSCA section 8(d) rule for some or all of these 23 nonylphenol ethoxylates if: ...2. The ITC notifies EPA in writing that the ITC did not receive adequate information via its voluntary information submission activity. (The ITC's voluntary submission policy can be found on the ITC's[SNIP]" --- [Federal Register: January 11, 2000 (Volume 65, Number 7)] [Rules and Regulations] [Page 1548-1554] >From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov] [DOCID:fr11ja00-10] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY 40 CFR Parts 712 and 716 [ OPPTS-82050; FRL-5777-2] RIN-2070-AB08 and 2070-AB11 Preliminary Assessment Information and Health and Safety Data Reporting; Addition and Removal of Certain Chemicals and Removal of Stay AGENCY: Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). ACTION: Final rule. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- SUMMARY: This final rule addresses the recommendations of the 39th TSCA Interagency Testing Committee (ITC) Report by adding 19 of 23 recommended nonylphenol ethoxylates to the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA) section 8(a) Preliminary Assessment Information Reporting (PAIR) rule. The TSCA ITC in its 39th Report to EPA revised the TSCA section 4(e) Priority Testing List by recommending testing for 23 nonylphenol ethoxylates, 19 of which are associated with unique Chemical Abstract Service (CAS) Registry numbers. The ITC recommendations are given priority consideration by EPA in promulgating TSCA section 4 test rules. This PAIR rule will require manufacturers (including importers) of the 19 CAS-numbered substances identified in this document to report certain production, use, and exposure-related information to EPA. This action also removes a stay for TSCA section 8(a) PAIR and section 8(d) Health and Safety Data Reporting rules issued previously for 18 nonylphenol ethoxylates recommended by the TSCA ITC in its 38th Report to EPA and removes those 18 chemicals from these reporting rules. DATES: This rule is effective on February 10, 2000. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: For general information contact: Joseph S. Carra, Deputy Director, Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxics (7401), Environmental Protection Agency, 401 M St., SW., Washington, DC 20460; telephone numbers: (202) 554-1404 and TDD: (202) 554-0551; e-mail address: TSCA-Hotline@epa.gov. For technical information contact: David R. Williams, Chemical Control Division (7405), Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxics, Environmental Protection Agency, 401 M St., SW., Washington, DC 20460; telephone numbers: (202) 260-8130; e-mail address: ccd.citb@epa.gov. SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: [[Page 1549]] I. General Information: A. Does This Action Apply to Me? You may be affected by this action if you manufacture (defined by statute to include import) any of the chemical substances that are listed in section 712.30(e) of the regulatory text portion of this document. Entities potentially affected by this action may include, but are not limited to: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- Examples of Potentially Type of Entity SIC NAICS Affected Entities -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- Chemical manufacturers (including 28, 2911 325, 32411 Persons who manufacture importers) (defined by statute to include import) one or more of the subject chemical substances. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- This listing is not intended to be exhaustive, but rather provides a guide for readers regarding entities likely to be affected by this action. The Standard Industrial Classification (SIC) codes and the North American Industrial Classification System (NAICS) codes have been provided to assist you and others in determining whether or not this action might apply to certain entities. If you have any questions regarding the applicability of this action to a particular entity, consult the technical person listed in the ``FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT'' section. B. How Can I Get Additional Information or Copies of This Document or Other Documents? 1. Electronically. You may obtain electronic copies of this document and other documents from the EPA Internet EPA Home Page at http://www.epa.gov/. On the Home Page select ``Law and Regulations'' and then look up the entry for this document under ``Federal Register-- Environmental Documents.'' You can also go directly to the Federal Register listings at http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/. 2. In person. The official record for this proposed rule, which includes the public version, has been established under docket control number OPPTS-82050. The official record consists of the documents referenced in this preamble, as well as any public comments, and other information related to this rulemaking, including information claimed as Confidential Business Information (CBI). This official record includes the documents that are physically located in the docket, as well as all documents that are referenced in those documents. The public version of the official record does not include any information claimed as CBI. The public version of the official record, which includes printed, paper versions of any electronic comments that may be submitted as described in Units I.C. and D. of this preamble, is available for inspection in the TSCA Nonconfidential Information Center, Rm. NE-B607, 401 M St., SW., Washington, DC. The Center is open from noon to 4 p.m., Monday through Friday, excluding legal holidays. The telephone number of the Center is (202) 260-7099. C. How and to Whom Do I Submit Comments? You may submit comments through the mail, in person, or electronically. To ensure proper receipt by EPA, your comments must identify docket control number OPPTS-82050 in the subject line on the first page of your response. 1. By mail. Submit comments to: Document Control Office (7407), Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxics, Environmental Protection Agency, 401 M St., SW., East Tower, Rm. G-099, Washington, DC 20460. 2. In person or by courier. Deliver comments to: Document Control Office, Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxics, Environmental Protection Agency, 401 M St., SW., East Tower, Rm. G-099, Washington, DC. The telephone number for the OPPT Document Control Office is (202) 260-7093. 3. Electronically. Submit your comments electronically by e-mail to: oppt.ncic@epa.gov, or you may mail or deliver your computer disk to the addresses identified in Units I.C.1. or 2. of this preamble. Do not submit any information electronically that you consider to be CBI. Submit comments as an ASCII file, avoiding the use of special characters and any form of encryption. Comments will also be accepted on standard disks in WordPerfect 6.1/8.0 or ASCII file format. All copies of electronic comments must be identified by docket control number OPPTS-82050. Electronic comments may be filed online at many Federal Depository Libraries. D. How Should I Handle CBI Information That I Want To Submit To The Agency? Do not submit any information electronically that you consider to be CBI. You may claim information that you submit in response to this document as CBI by marking any part or all of that information as CBI. Information so marked will not be disclosed except in accordance with procedures set forth in 40 CFR part 2. In addition to one complete version of the comments that include any information claimed as CBI, a copy of the comments that does not contain the information claimed as CBI must be submitted for inclusion in the public version of the official record. Information not marked confidential will be included in the public version of the official record by EPA without prior notice. If you have any questions about CBI or the procedures for claiming CBI, consult the technical person identified in ``FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT''at the beginning of this preamble. II. What is the Purpose of Today's Action? In today's action, EPA is issuing a final TSCA section 8(a) ``Preliminary Assessment Information Reporting'' (PAIR) rule for 19 of 23 nonylphenol ethoxylates recommended for testing in the 39th TSCA ITC Report to the EPA Administrator (62 FR 8578, February 25, 1997) (FRL- 5580-9). Specifically at the request of the ITC in a letter to EPA dated September 15, 1997, EPA is not issuing a final TSCA section 8(d) ``Unpublished Health and Safety Data'' reporting rule at this time for the 23 nonylphenol ethoxylates recommended for testing in the 39th ITC Report so as to give the ITC an opportunity to implement the voluntary information submission policy that was proposed in the ITC's 40th Report (62 FR 30580, June 4, 1997) (FRL-5718-3). Also in today's action, EPA is removing the ``stay'' (61 FR 65186, December 11, 1996) (FRL-5577-6) that was issued for the TSCA section 8(a) and TSCA section 8(d) rules (61 FR 55871, October 29, 1996) (FRL-5397-9) promulgated by the Agency for the 18 nonylphenol ethoxylates recommended for testing in [[Page 1550]] the ITC's 38th Report (61 FR 39832, July 30, 1996) (FRL-5379-2). Further, EPA is revoking those TSCA section 8(a) and TSCA section 8(d) rules issued on October 29, 1996. III. What is the Basis for Today's Action? On May 31, 1996, EPA received the 38th Report of the TSCA Section 4 ITC. In the 38th Report, the ITC recommended 18 nonylphenol ethoxylates for testing under section 4 of TSCA (61 FR 39832, July 30, 1996). In response to the ITC's 38th Report, EPA promulgated final TSCA section 8(a) ``Preliminary Assessment Information Reporting'' (PAIR) and TSCA section 8(d) ``Unpublished Health and Safety Data'' reporting rules (61 FR 55871, October 29, 1996) (FRL-5397-9) for the 18 nonylphenol ethoxylates listed in the ITC's 38th Report. Shortly after the effective date for these TSCA rules, EPA became aware of the fact that the ITC's use of some alternate CAS numbers and several unclear chemical names in the 38th Report had resulted in confusion among U.S. producers, importers, and processors about the exact identities of the chemical substances for which TSCA section 8(a) and 8(d) reporting was being required. In order to eliminate further confusion within the regulated community about the actual identities of the subject chemicals, EPA formally ``stayed'' the TSCA section 8(a) and 8(d) rules for the 18 nonylphenol ethoxylates recommended in the ITC's 38th Report. EPA issued this stay on December 11, 1996 (61 FR 65186) and also requested the ITC to clarify the identities of the nonylphenol ethoxylates recommended in its 38th Report. In an attempt to eliminate the ambiguities resulting from the ITC's use of alternate CAS numbers and unclear chemical names for the 18 nonylphenol ethoxylates recommended in its 38th Report, the ITC, in its 39th Report to the EPA Administrator, recommended for testing a revised list comprised of 23 nonylphenol ethoxylates (62 FR 8578, February 25, 1997). According to the 39th Report, the ITC had re-examined its use of alternate CAS numbers for several of the 18 nonylphenol ethoxylates recommended in the 38th Report and determined that 5 of those CAS numbers were not associated with any of the 18 chemical substances. For the 23 nonylphenol ethoxylates recommended in the 39th Report, the ITC provided where possible more accurate CAS numbers and more up- to-date chemical names (using 9th Collective Index chemical nomenclature where possible). In a letter addressed to the EPA Administrator dated September 15, 1997, the ITC formally requested that EPA: 1. Revoke the TSCA section 8(a) PAIR and TSCA section 8(d) rules issued by EPA on October 29, 1996 (61 FR 55871) for the 18 nonylphenol ethoxylates that were recommended in the ITC's 38th Report and ``stayed'' by EPA on December 11, 1996 (61 FR 65186). 2. Issue a final TSCA section 8(a) PAIR rule for the 19 nonylphenol ethoxylates with CAS numbers of the 23 total nonylphenol ethoxylates recommended in the ITC's 39th Report. 3. Not issue a TSCA section 8(d) rule for the 23 recommended nonylphenol ethoxylates in order to allow the ITC the opportunity to implement its voluntary information submission policy proposed in the ITC's 40th Report (62 FR 30580, June 4, 1997). EPA reserves the right to issue a TSCA section 8(d) rule for some or all of these 23 nonylphenol ethoxylates if: 1. EPA believes that such a rulemaking is necessary to gather data to determine if testing is needed for, or otherwise support the assessment of, the subject chemical(s); or 2. The ITC notifies EPA in writing that the ITC did not receive adequate information via its voluntary information submission activity. (The ITC's voluntary submission policy can be found on the ITC's Internet Homepage under Voluntary Information Submission Innovative Online Network or ``VISION'' (http://www.epa.gov/opptintr/itc/vision). Hard copies of the ITC's voluntary information submission policy are available from the TSCA Environmental Assistance Division at the address listed under ``FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT.'') IV. What is the Preliminary Assessment Information Reporting (PAIR) Rule? EPA promulgated the PAIR rule in 40 CFR part 712 under section 8(a) of TSCA (15 U.S.C. 2607(a)). This model section 8(a) rule establishes standard reporting requirements for manufacturers (including importers) of the chemicals listed in the rule at 40 CFR 712.30. These entities are required to submit a one-time report on general production/ importation volume, end use, and exposure-related information using the Preliminary Assessment Information Manufacturer's Report (EPA Form No. 7710-35). EPA uses this model section 8(a) rule to quickly gather current information on chemicals. This model rule provides for the automatic addition of ITC Priority Testing List chemicals. Whenever EPA announces the receipt of an ITC report, EPA may, at the same time and without providing notice and opportunity for public comment, amend the model information-gathering rule by adding the recommended (or designated) chemicals. The amendment adding these chemicals to the PAIR rule is effective February 10, 2000. V. Chemicals To Be Deleted The following 18 nonylphenol ethoxylates that were recommended in the ITC's 38th Report are being deleted as a result of today's revocation of the TSCA section 8(a) PAIR and TSCA section 8(d) rules that were issued by EPA on October 29, 1996 (61 FR 55871) and stayed by the Agency on December 11, 1996 (61 FR 65186). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chemical Name CAS Number ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nonylphenol ethoxylates alpha-(p-Nonylphenol)-omega- NA hydroxypoly(oxyethylene). Decaethylene glycol, isononylphenyl ether. 65455-72-3 Ethanol, 2-[2-(p-nonylphenoxy)ethoxy]-.... 20427-84-3 Ethanol, 2-[2-[2-[2-(p- 7311-27-5 nonylphenoxy)ethoxy]ethoxy]ethoxy]-. Nonoxynol-2............................... NA Nonoxynol-3............................... NA Nonoxynol-7............................... NA Nonylphenol hepta(oxyethylene)ethanol..... 27177-05-5 Nonylphenol octa(oxyethylene)ethanol...... 26571-11-9 Nonylphenol polyethylene glycol ether..... 9016-45-9, 20636-48-0, 26027- 38-3, 26064-02-8, 27177-01- 1, 37205-87-1, 127087-87-0 [[Page 1551]] Nonylphenol polyethylene glycol ether..... 27177-08-8 Nonylphenolnona(oxyethylene) ethanol...... 27986-36-3 Nonylphenoxy ethanol...................... 27176-93-8 Nonylphenoxydiglycol...................... 68412-54-4 Nonylphenoxypolyoxyethanol................ 152143-22-1, 26027-38-3 p-Nonylphenol polyethylene glycol ether... 27986-36-3, 37205-87-1, 98113-10-1 Poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl), alpha- 37205-87-1 (isononylphenyl)-omega-hydroxy-. Poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl), alpha-(2- 51938-25-1 nonylphenyl)-omega-hydroxy-. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ VI. Chemicals To Be Added In its 39th Report to EPA, the ITC recommended a group of 23 nonylphenol ethoxylates. These chemicals can be automatically added to the PAIR and TSCA section 8(d) Health and Safety Data Reporting rules unless requested otherwise by the ITC to implement its voluntary information submission policy. In a letter dated September 15, 1997, the ITC requested that a TSCA section 8(d) Health and Safety Data Reporting rule not be promulgated for these 23 nonylphenol ethoxylates. Therefore, these substances will not be added to Sec. 716.120. The regulatory text (Sec. 712.30(e)) of this document lists the 19 nonylphenol ethoxylates that are being added to the PAIR rule as a result of today's action. The other 4 nonylphenol ethoxylates recommended in the ITC's 39th report are not being added to the PAIR rule because they are not associated with unique CAS numbers. VII. Reporting Requirements A. Who Must Report Under this PAIR Rule? All persons who manufactured (defined by statute to include import) the 19 nonylphenol ethoxylates identified in the regulatory text (Sec. 712.30(e)) of this rule during their latest complete corporate fiscal year must submit a Preliminary Assessment Information Manufacturer's Report (EPA Form No. 7710-35) for each site at which they manufactured or imported a named substance. A separate form must be completed for each substance and submitted to the Agency as specified in 40 CFR 712.28 no later than April 10, 2000. Persons who have previously and voluntarily submitted a Manufacturer's Report to the ITC or EPA may be able to submit a copy of the original Report to EPA or to notify EPA by letter of their desire to have this voluntary submission accepted in lieu of a current data submission. See Sec. 712.30(a)(3). Details of the PAIR reporting requirements, including the basis for exemptions, are provided in 40 CFR part 712. Copies of the form are available from the TSCA Environmental Assistance Division at the address listed under ``FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT.'' Copies of the PAIR form are also available electronically from the Chemical Testing and Information Gathering Home Page on the Internet at http:// www.epa.gov/opptintr/chemtest/. B. Removal of Chemical Substances from the PAIR Rule Any person who believes that section 8(a) reporting required by this rule is not warranted, should promptly submit to EPA on or before January 25, 2000, detailed reasons for that belief. EPA, in its discretion, may remove the substance from this rule (40 CFR 712.30(c)). When withdrawing a chemical from the rule, EPA will publish a rule amendment in the Federal Register. VIII. Public Record The following documents constitute the public record for this rule (docket control number OPPTS-82050). All of these documents are available to the public in the TSCA Nonconfidential Information Center (NCIC), from noon to 4 p.m., Monday through Friday, excluding legal holidays. The TSCA NCIC is located at EPA Headquarters, Rm. NE-B607, 401 M St., SW., Washington, DC. 1. This final rule. 2. The Economic Analysis for this rule, December 15, 1999. 3. The 39th Report of the ITC, (62 FR 8578, February 25, 1997). 4. The 38th Report of the ITC, (61 FR 39832, July 30, 1996). 5. Stay of the TSCA section 8(a) and 8(d) rules issued in response to the 38th Report of the ITC, (61 FR 65186). 6. Letter from the ITC to EPA, September 15, 1997. IX. Why is this Action Being Issued as a Final Rule? EPA is publishing this action as a final rule without prior notice and an opportunity to comment because the Agency believes that providing notice and an opportunity to comment is unnecessary. This final rule makes modifications needed to clarify the identities of certain chemicals subject to the TSCA section 8(a) PAIR regulations and removes certain chemicals from the TSCA section 8(d) regulations. EPA therefore finds that there is ``good cause'' under section 553(b)(3)(B) of the Administrative Procedure Act (APA) (5 U.S.C. 553 (b)(3)(B)) to make these amendments without prior notice and comment. X. Economic Analysis [SNIP] From ttweed@wildrockies.org Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:10:53 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:10:53 -0700 From: Tony Tweedale ttweed@wildrockies.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] Hi Prodctn Vol. TSCA petition--comment sought [Federal Register: January 13, 2000 (Volume 65, Number 9)] [Notices] [Page 2163-2164] >From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov] [DOCID:fr13ja00-67] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- [OPPTS-00274A; FRL-6487-8] Voluntary Children's Health Chemical Testing Program; Cancellation of Public Meeting AGENCY: Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). ACTION: Notice; cancellation of public meeting. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- SUMMARY: The public meeting on the Voluntary Children's Health Chemical Testing Program scheduled for January 19-20, 2000, is canceled. This meeting was announced in the Federal Register of August 26, 1999 (64 FR 46673) (FRL-6089-1), and was intended to be the third public meeting in a Stakeholder Involvement Process to develop a voluntary program to test commercial chemicals to which children have a high likelihood of exposure. On a future date, EPA will announce a new date for the third stakeholder meeting and will describe how that meeting will be conducted. [snip] ============================ from the below: "...assertions that rules requiring the submission of existing data provide a better implementation approach for the HPV Challenge Program and TSCA section 4 HPV test rule(s) than the approach currently utilized, namely, voluntary submission of existing data..." --- [Federal Register: January 13, 2000 (Volume 65, Number 9)] [Notices] [Page 2164-2165] >From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov] [DOCID:fr13ja00-68] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY [OPPTS-211044; FRL-6487-7] TSCA Section 21 Petition; Notice of Receipt AGENCY: Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). ACTION: Notice. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- SUMMARY: This notice announces receipt of a petition submitted by five organizations under section 21 of the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA), and requests comments on the petition. The organizations have petitioned EPA to initiate rulemaking proceedings with respect to all chemicals included on the HPV (high production volume chemical) Challenge Program list as updated through the date of initiation of the requested proceedings for: The issuance of a TSCA section 8(a) Preliminary Assessment Information Reporting (PAIR) rule and issuance of a Health and Safety Data Reporting rule under TSCA section 8(d). The petitioners further petition that ``[s]uch rule should neither be limited to participants in the Challenge Program nor exclude substances or mixtures as to which a participant has enrolled in the Program.'' Under TSCA section 21, the Agency must respond to the petition by March 28, 2000. DATES: Comments should be received on or before February 3, 2000. The Agency will accept comments received after that date, but cannot guarantee that they will be considered prior to preparing its response to the petition. ADDRESSES: Comments may be submitted by mail, electronically, or in person. Please follow the detailed instructions for each method as provided in Unit I. of ``SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION.'' To ensure proper receipt by EPA, it is imperative that you identify docket control number OPPTS-211044 in the subject line on the first page of your response. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: For general information contact: Joseph S. Carra, Deputy Director, Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxics (7401), Environmental Protection Agency, Ariel Rios Bldg., 1200 Pennsylvania Ave., NW., Washington, DC 20460; telephone numbers: (202) 554-1404 and TDD: (202) 554-0551; e-mail address: TSCA-Hotline@epa.gov. For technical information contact: Frank Kover, Chemical Control Division (7405), Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxics, Environmental Protection Agency, Ariel Rios Bldg., 1200 Pennsylvania Ave., NW., Washington, DC 20460; telephone number: (202) 260-3946; e- mail address: ccd.citb@epa.gov. SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: I. General Information A. Does this Action Apply to Me? This action is directed to the public in general. This action may, however, be of interest to chemical manufacturers (including importers). Since other entities may also be interested, the Agency has not attempted to describe all the specific entities that may be affected by this action. If you have any questions regarding the applicability of this action to a particular entity, consult the technical person listed under ``FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT.'' B. How Can I Get Additional Information, Including Copies of this Document or Other Related Documents? 1. Electronically. You may obtain electronic copies of this document, and certain other related documents that might be available electronically, from the EPA Internet Home Page at http://www.epa.gov/. To access this document, on the Home Page select ``Laws and Regulations'' and then look up the entry for this document under the ``Federal Register--Environmental Documents.'' You can also go directly to the Federal Register listings at http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/. In addition, the petition may also be accessed on EPA's homepage at http:/ /www.epa.gov/chemrtk/sc21main.htm. 2. In person. The Agency has established an official record for this action under docket control number OPPTS-211044. The official record consists of the documents specifically referenced in this action, any public comments received during an applicable comment period, and other information related to this action, including any information claimed as confidential business information (CBI). This official record includes the documents that are physically located in the docket, as well as the documents that are referenced in those documents. The public version of the official record does not include any information claimed as CBI. The public version of the official record, which includes printed, paper versions of any electronic comments submitted during [[Page 2165]] an applicable comment period, is available for inspection in the TSCA Nonconfidential Information Center, North East Mall Rm. B-607, Waterside Mall, 401 M St., SW., Washington, DC. The Center is open from noon to 4 p.m., Monday through Friday, excluding legal holidays. The telephone number for the Center is (202) 260-7099. C. How and to Whom Do I Submit Comments? You may submit comments through the mail, in person, or electronically. To ensure proper receipt by EPA, it is imperative that you identify docket control number OPPTS-211044 in the subject line on the first page of your response. 1. By mail. Submit your comments to: Document Control Office (7407), Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxics (OPPT), Environmental Protection Agency, Ariel Rios Bldg., 1200 Pennsylvania Ave., NW., Washington, DC 20460, Attention: Docket Number OPPTS-211044. 2. In person or by courier. Deliver your comments to: OPPT Document Control Office (DCO) in East Tower Rm. G-099, Waterside Mall, 401 M St., SW., Washington, DC. The DCO is open from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m., Monday through Friday, excluding legal holidays. The telephone number for the DCO is (202) 260-7093. 3. Electronically. You may submit your comments electronically by e-mail to: ``oppt.ncic@epa.gov,'' or mail your computer disk to the address identified above. Do not submit any information electronically that you consider to be CBI. Electronic comments must be submitted as an ASCII file avoiding the use of special characters and any form of encryption. Comments and data will also be accepted on standard disks in WordPerfect 6.1/8.0 or ASCII file format. All comments in electronic form must be identified by docket control number OPPTS-211044. Electronic comments may also be filed online at many Federal Depository Libraries. D. How Should I Handle CBI Information That I Want To Submit to the Agency? Do not submit any information electronically that you consider to be CBI. You may claim information that you submit to EPA in response to this document as CBI by marking any part or all of that information as CBI. Information so marked will not be disclosed except in accordance with procedures set forth in 40 CFR part 2. In addition to one complete version of the comment that includes any information claimed as CBI, a copy of the comment that does not contain the information claimed as CBI must be submitted for inclusion in the public version of the official record. Information not marked confidential will be included in the public version of the official record without prior notice. If you have any questions about CBI or the procedures for claiming CBI, please consult the technical person identified under ``FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT.'' E. What Should I Consider as I Prepare My Comments for EPA? We invite you to provide your views on the relief sought by the petitioners, and any data or information that you would like the Agency to consider in developing its response to the petition. You may find the following suggestions helpful for preparing your comments: 1. Explain your views as clearly as possible. 2. Describe any assumptions that you used. 3. Provide copies of any technical information and/or data you used that support your views. 4. If you estimate potential burden or costs, explain how you arrived at the estimate that you provide. 5. Provide specific examples to illustrate your concerns. 6. Make sure to submit your comments by the deadline in this notice. 7. To ensure proper receipt by EPA, be sure to identify the docket control number assigned to this action in the subject line on the first page of your response. You may also provide the name, date, and Federal Register citation. II. Background A. What is a TSCA section 21 petition? Section 21 of TSCA allows citizens to petition EPA to initiate a proceeding for the issuance, amendment, or repeal of a rule under TSCA section 4, 6, or 8 or an order under section 5(e) or 6(b)(2). A TSCA section 21 petition must set forth facts which the petitioner believes establish the need for the action requested. EPA is required to grant or deny the petition within 90 days of its receipt. If EPA grants the petition, the Agency must promptly commence an appropriate proceeding. If EPA denies the petition, the Agency must publish its reasons for the denial in the Federal Register. Within 60 days of denial or no action, petitioners may commence a civil action in a U.S. district court to compel initiation of the requested rulemaking. When reviewing a petition for a new rule, as in this case, the court must provide an opportunity for de novo review of the petition. After hearing the evidence, the court can order EPA to initiate the requested action. B. What action is requested under this TSCA section 21 petition? On December 27, 1999, EPA received a TSCA section 21 petition from five organizations. The organizations have petitioned EPA to initiate rulemaking proceedings with respect to all chemicals included on the HPV Challenge Program list as updated through the date of initiation of the requested proceedings for: The issuance of a TSCA section 8(a) PAIR rule and issuance of a Health and Safety Data Reporting rule under TSCA section 8(d). The petitioners further petition that ``[s]uch rule should neither be limited to participants in the Challenge Program nor exclude substances or mixtures as to which a participant has enrolled in the Program.'' Under TSCA section 21, the Agency must respond to the petition by March 28, 2000. Petitioners' request for rules under TSCA sections 8(a) and 8(d) is based in part upon assertions that rules requiring the submission of existing data provide a better implementation approach for the HPV Challenge Program and TSCA section 4 HPV test rule(s) than the approach currently utilized, namely, voluntary submission of existing data in connection with the HPV Challenge or as comments to the proposed HPV rule(s) under TSCA section 4. EPA has commenced a review of this petition. Comments on the petition may be submitted by any of the methods identified in Unit I. List of Subjects Environmental protection. Dated: January 7, 2000. Charles M. Auer, Director, Chemical Control Division, Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxics. [FR Doc. 00-850 Filed 1-12-00; 8:45 am] BILLING CODE 6560-50-F ------------------------------ From ttweed@wildrockies.org Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:17:07 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:17:07 -0700 From: Tony Tweedale ttweed@wildrockies.org Subject: [Dioxin-l] Re:Reply Connie, if it's not obvious by now, my comments below simply weren't aimed at you. End of story. (You even seem to have misread my intent on the residual Cl disinfection Q., as it should have been plainly evident that I fully agree w/ you that little Cl is needed (if any, actually) and that it may not be totally effective anyway). So, jeez, take a breather, relax!) Another of the radical argument examples I was talking about is the repeated--almost in passing, but several times--unavoidable implication that we should average the dioxin TDI's (tolerable daily intakes; "safe" doses) of various agencies and countries. This reminds me of Dr Commoner's complaint of the late '80's EPA dioxin Workgroup trying to average different estimates from one study of TCDD's cancer potency. Averaging is a dangerous and logical impossibility in these questions. If answers aren't evident, you may have to get into the guts of different claims to decide which is right, even if it takes decades. In the case of dioxin TDI's it's clear which one is based on the most exhaustive, wide-open/inclusive of all scientists, expansive, complete risk assessment to date--EPA's draft 0.01 pg/kg/d, the lowest one. None of the other's I've seen mentioned come within a mile. Even this most conservative one does not come close to reflecting our complete exposures or addressing all the health effects data gaps, nd all the info that's poured in since then gives more cause ofr concern. All this puts the averaging suggestion in a different, radical, dangerous (private interest over public health) light. Meanwhile the Precautionary Principle is irrefutable and of great utility to society. -- >> Some posts from these people have been logical, others not. > >Tony, I want to make it clear to you that while I can now see your point, >that my statement was proffered to debate Davids, not to imply that dioxin >is safe at some specific level. I'd like to imagine that I think for >myself, but I recognize that altogether I worked about 15 years in the >chemical industry and that I've been inundated with the idea that "the dose >makes the difference." I never saw a problem with accepting this concept >until you questioned my motives. You wrote: "Other posts from these people >have similarly been couched in reasonable sounding arguments but were >actually quite radical arguments--eg that dioxin in the env is safe if at a >certain level." This obviously questioned my motives and at first I was >upset because my motives were on the side of human health, but then I calmed >down and starting thinking about it. > >Connie Hansson -- From amuller@dca.net Sat, 15 Jan 2000 07:06:40 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 07:06:40 -0500 From: Alan Muller amuller@dca.net Subject: [Dioxin-l] Green Delaware Alert # 47--American Cancer Society Lobbyist Promotes Philpower Incinerator in Delaware--Calls and emails to Cancer Society Needed --=====================_89259367==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Green Delaware Alert # 47 (please post/forward to friends) American Cancer Society Lobbyist Promotes Philpower Incinerator CALLS and EMAILS NEEDED (see below) Port Penn, DE, January 13, 2000. Communities in Delaware fight battle after battle to protect themselves from cancer-causing incinerator pollution. Philpower Corp., from North Carolina, is trying to put a "construction and demolition debris" incinerator in New Castle County, DE. Philpower has hired lobbyist Robert Maxwell (302.777.7445), who also works for the American Cancer Society (ACS). (Maxwell's filing with the Delaware Public Integrity Commission calls Philpower an "environmentally advanced power company.") Mission Statement of the ACS (www.cancer.org): "The American Cancer Society is the nationwide communitybased voluntary health organization dedicated to eliminating cancer as a major health problem by preventing cancer, saving lives and diminishing suffering from cancer, through research, education, advocacy, and service." Philpower, according to permit applications, would put out as much as ten thousand pounds per day of health-threatening air pollutants. "Total Trace Metal Emission," including cancer causing chromium, arsenic, lead, cadmium and nickel, would be up to 625 pounds per day (over a quarter of a million pounds per year). Pat Scarborough, ACS "Regional Executive" said: "He does a great job for us, what else he does is up to him." We were not able to get a response from ACS national offices. Maxwell and Philpower President Wayne Coverdale are meeting with politicians and offering contributions. One state legislator returned a contribution after finding out who it was from. Some contributions may intentionally be below the $100 reporting limit, but we will publish a "dishonor role" of officeholders known to have accepted contributions from Philpower. CALLS and EMAILS NEEDED The Cancer Society depends on contributions. Please contact these ACS leaders and indicate you WILL NOT contribute to the ACS as long as it uses lobbyists who promote incinerators. John Seffrin, Chief Executive Officer, 404.329.7601, jseffrin@cancer.org John Kelly, Chair of the Board, jrkelly@cbcgulf.navfac.navy.mil Pat Scarborough, Regional Executive, 302.324.4227, pscscarbor@cancer.org Robert Meckelnburg, M.D., Chair, Greater Wilm. Board of Directors, 302.368.8700, osteorec@prodigy.net Maxwell also works for the Del. Association of Counties and the League of Local Governments. Contact New Castle County Ex. Tom Gordon, 302.395.5102, FAX 302.395.5268, tgordon@co.new-castle.de.us, and say the County should not employ a lobbyist who promotes incinerators. For more information contact: Alan Muller, Ex. Dir., Green Delaware, (302)834-3466 fax (302)836-3005 greendel@dca.net, http//members.dca.net/greendel/ Green Delaware will pay for long distances calls opposing incinerators. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This is a Green Delaware list. To be added or removed send email. We invite feedback on our emissions. 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Green Delaware Alert # 47

(please post/forward to friends)

American Cancer Society Lobbyist Promotes Philpower Incinerator

CALLS and EMAILS NEEDED (see below)

Port Penn, DE, January 13, 2000.  Communities in Delaware fight battle after battle to protect themselves from cancer-causing incinerator pollution.  Philpower Corp., from North Carolina, is trying to put a “construction and demolition debris” incinerator in New Castle County, DE.  Philpower has hired lobbyist Robert Maxwell (302.777.7445), who also works for the American Cancer Society (ACS).  (Maxwell’s filing with the Delaware Public Integrity Commission calls Philpower an “environmentally advanced power company.”)

Mission Statement of the ACS (www.cancer.org):

"The American Cancer Society is  the nationwide communitybased  voluntary health organization dedicated to eliminating cancer as a major health problem by  preventing cancer, saving lives and diminishing suffering from cancer, through research, education, advocacy, and service."

Philpower, according to permit applications, would put out as much as ten thousand pounds per day of health-threatening air pollutants.  “Total Trace Metal Emission,” including cancer causing chromium, arsenic, lead, cadmium and nickel, would be up to 625 pounds per day (over a quarter of a million pounds per year).

Pat Scarborough, ACS “Regional Executive” said: “He does a great job for us, what else he does is up to him.”  We were not able to get a response from ACS national offices.

Maxwell and Philpower President Wayne Coverdale are meeting with politicians and offering contributions.  One state legislator returned a contribution after finding out who it was from.  Some contributions may intentionally be below the $100 reporting limit, but we will publish a “dishonor role” of officeholders known to have accepted contributions from Philpower.

CALLS and EMAILS NEEDED

The Cancer Society depends on contributions.  Please contact these ACS leaders and indicate you WILL NOT contribute to the ACS as long as it uses lobbyists who promote incinerators.

John Seffrin, Chief Executive Officer, 404.329.7601, jseffrin@cancer.org
John Kelly, Chair of the Board, jrkelly@cbcgulf.navfac.navy.mil
Pat Scarborough, Regional Executive, 302.324.4227, pscscarbor@cancer.org
Robert Meckelnburg, M.D., Chair, Greater Wilm. Board of Directors, 302.368.8700, osteorec@prodigy.net

Maxwell also works for the Del. Association of Counties and the League of Local Governments.

Contact New Castle County Ex. Tom Gordon, 302.395.5102, FAX 302.395.5268, tgordon@co.new-castle.de.us,  and say the County should not employ a lobbyist who promotes incinerators.

For more information contact: Alan Muller, Ex. Dir., Green Delaware, (302)834-3466
fax (302)836-3005 greendel@dca.net, http//members.dca.net/greendel/  Green Delaware will pay for long distances calls opposing incinerators.


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