[Dioxin-l] [Dioxin] Open List?

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David,

You've got to help me here. What lake(s)? The Great Lakes? The lake in 
Central Park? You are assuming that deposition in the late 19th century is 
from natural sources. It's my understanding that foundries/smelters etc. are 
now recognized as possible sources of air borne dioxin during that period. 
The only unexplaned dioxin deposits that I know of have been in clay deposits 
(deep?)

Where did you hear about falling dioxin levels? What consensus? Dioxin levels 
in what? In the air? In B&J's ice cream? Have you seen the posting on 
backyard burn barrels? have you had any of the new pentachlorophenol treated 
utility poles installed in your neighborhood lately? Penta is loaded with 
dioxin and is becoming the pole treatment of choice (over creosote).

What are you trying to tell us about DDT? You admit that it is a known 
problem, and it deserves "effort", then you tell us that it saves lives in 
third world countries.  Which is it going to be? Perhaps we humans have 
learned nothing from one of our  earliest environmental mistakes.  We have 
created a super race of DDT resistant mosquitos which proliferate in human 
created habitats like tires, containers and stagant water in natural drainage 
systems screwed up by harebrained development schemes. People use spent DDT 
containers for everything. A favorite use of DDT is to spray the interior 
walls of homes because it kills mosquitos (some) on contact for many months 
afterwards. That, to me is a reckless threat to public health with no long 
term effect on the mosquito population.

The problem is that those who make the cost-benefit analyses are often not 
the ones who suffer the costs of those desisions. A desision to use DDT now 
will affect people and wildlife for decades.

I'm sorry. I don't think organo halogens have proven to be that useful. Just 
because our society uses them does not mean that they are really necessary. 
Does our society need all of the disposable vinyl crap that it throws away 
and burns in incinerators? Vinyl siding is the rage now. In 20-25 years it 
will be getting torn off of the millions of homes upon which it was installed 
because it disintegrates from UV exposure. Then what? our stupid wasteful 
society doesn't need all of the absurd rubbish that it consumes to maintain 
its fabric. It just thinks it does because that is what it is told by 
propagandists. Checked out the latest Pokemon? 

In light of this situation, I don't anticipate any net reductionsof organo 
halogens in our environment.

CHLORO PHOBES R US

Ta Ta!
Carl