[Dioxin-l] dioxin in burgers

[Andy Friedmann]

Jon,

Sorry about the misquote.  I'll check out those
sources.

Given the recent discussion regarding people's
motives, etc. I feel I should tell you my background
and current interests/affiliation.  My degrees are
from Hamilton College (BA, German) and from Dartmouth
Medical School (PhD, Physiology).  Since graduate
school I've spent 5 years conducting ecotoxicological
research and have published some papers on mercury and
atrazine.  For the past year and a half I've worked
for consulting firms, primarily doing risk assessments
on contaminated sites.

I consider myself an environmentalist (I recycle
advidly, teach my kids to respect the environment,
vote based on politicians environmental stances, etc.)
 I try to view pollution from a "dose makes the
poison" perspective, but also realize that there can
be effects that we don't know about.

No one is paying me to spend time on this list.  My
interest is in the exchange of information (for which
I have much too little time) that will allow us all to
get closer to the truth about dioxins.  I like hearing
varying points of views on the dioxin issue and would
enjoy discussing them on the list.

However, because I am a consultant and my clients are
industry, I realize this might make a number of people
nervous or doubt my intentions.  If this is the
majority view, I'll unsubscribe.

Let me say one more thing in my 'defense'.  While
working with industry I do my best not to distort
facts and always give my honest opinion.  If I feel
something is dangerous based on my knowledge of the
toxicology, I say so.  I think of my job as acting as
an intermediary between government and industry --
both pulling in opposite directions.

Sincerely,

Andy

--- Jon Campbell <Jon.Campbell@MetraTech.com> wrote:
> Michael did not write this, Jon Campbell did.
> 
> That figure is in the updated EPA Dioxin
> Reassessment (not yet published).
> The original data is in the 1994 EPA dioxin
> reassessment, and summarized in
> the book "Dying From Dioxin" by Lois Gibbs. At the
> time, the EPA max
> allowable dose was 0.006 picograms per kg of body
> weight, so a 70 kg person
> was supposed to have a max dose of 0.4 pg. That
> figure has been pushed up to
> 0.01 pg/kg , probably as a result of industry
> pressure.
> 
> Jon Campbell
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Friedmann
> [mailto:derwuestenfuchs@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 10:39 AM
> To: dioxin-l@lists.essential.org
> Subject: [Dioxin-l] dioxin in burgers
> 
> 
> Michael wrote:
> 
> "A single McDonalds hamburger has 100 picograms of
> dioxin in it, the EPA max dosage is 0.7 picograms
> for
> an ADULT."
> 
> Pretty upsetting if true.  What's the source of this
> number?
> 
> Andy
> 
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