[Am-info] Re: Recycled

[Mark Hinds]

John J. Urbaniak wrote:
> Mark Hinds wrote:
> 
>> John J. Urbaniak wrote:
>>
>>> As I said, you are being irrational.  I'll pray for you.
>>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> He was being sarcastic John, not irrational. Tell me, how can one
>> be so obtuse - is that rational?
>>
>> Perhaps this explains your delusional thinking:
>> "Because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be 
>> saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong
>>  delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be 
>> damned who believed not the truth . . ." (II Thess. 2:10-12).
>>
>> Do I hate Bush, yeah probably. do I hate you no.
>> "For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are 
>> led of them are destroyed." (Isaiah 9:16) 
> 


> By "leaders of this people" are you referring to leaders of the United 
> Nations, along with many leaders in France, Germany, Russia and China 
> who took bribes from Saddam Hussein in the "oil for food" scandal?  Ten 
> BILLION dollars in the biggest bribery scandal ever!?!
Isaiah wrote it down, not me. It's left to us to apply it. It does tend
to cut many ways. Clearly I believe that the dogmatic support of Mr Bush's
policies my some US citizens is the strong delusion and that Bush is the leader
that caused his people to err.

> They took this money and promised to veto any UN resolution which would 
> endorse an invasion to remove Saddam from power.
And you know this how?

> Meanwhile, Saddam and his two charming sons, Uday and Qusay continued to 
> murder, torture and rape Iraqis, dipping them in acid, cutting out their 
> tongues, chopping off hands, ears and other organs, killing their 
> children with bee and wasp stings, or feeding them to vicious dogs in 
> front of their parents.  Saddam destroyed the environment of Southern 
> Iraq, draining the marshes to mud flats just because the Marsh Arabs 
> disagreed with his brutal policies.  He devastated Kuwait with oil 
> fires.  He poisoned water wells in Kurdish areas just because he hated 
> the Kurds.
There's a lot a room between UN sanctions and military occupation.
I suggest there was more middle of the road approach. The cure should not
be worse than the disease. There are now 1100 more dead US citizens and
nearly 100,000 dead Iraqi's. Nothing you cited above was used as justification
prior to the war. It was to dissarm Saddam Hussein, which appears not to
have been needed since none of the WMD's has been found. Even by your
Syria angle this we've actaully cause the WMD's to spread around to places
unknown. The above might have been cause for a war, but that's not what
Mr Bush told the world before the war. Rationalizing after the fact does
not legitimize this thing.

> Oh yes, the "leaders" in the UN and other countries took bribes to keep 
> needed food and medicine from helpless Iraqi children, while they lined 
> their own pockets with blood for oil money.
Again, you make emotional after the fact rationalizations. Perhaps we
should have invaded France then?

> Saddam is now gone, thanks to the bravery and wisdom of President Bush.

Please, this is offensive. If anything it is by the bravery of US and
its allies, not the bravery of GW "bring'em on" Bush. As to the wisdom
part, we'll know in a few days a wise the American public thinks it was,
but history will be the final judge.

> Many years from now, President Bush will be seen as one who did truly 
> great things for the whole world, in spite of malicious opposition from 
> UN, Hollywood, European, and other so-called "leaders" whom you seem to 
> cherish.  These creeps will be destroyed, as they deserve, as foretold 
> in the Isaiah reading you cited above.
And you know this how? Did you take my flux capacitor? :-)
I think we'll need to wait a few years at least before we know the judgement of history.

> By the way, I am not a Republican.
That explains it becuase honest republicans cound not possibley support all the bogus
stuff the GW Bush has done. So what exactly are you then?