[Am-info] OT ...

[Geoffrey]

madodel@ptdprolog.net wrote:

> You hide behind the UN when it suits you and condemn them when it
> doesn't.

It seems that is your ploy.  First you said they had nothing to do with 
Iraq, I provide you documentation and you go on with your diatribe, 
totally lacking in substance and/or evidence.

> So where did Kerry say that invading Afghanistan was wrong?  You made
> the statement.  Back it up.

His statement was made during one of the debates following President 
Bush's comments how the military had done such a good job in Afghanistan.


> Wouldn't matter anyway would it?  You can see no wrong in anything
> these guys do.  Its truly amazing how perfect you all are and so damn
> sure of yourselves as you march into oblivion in lock step.

It's amazing you see it as a you verses us.  You need help, seriously. 
Just like a democrat, no such thing as an individual.  I actually see 
any vote for a politician as a vote for the lesser evil.  I trust none 
of them.  Kerry' blatantly lies from one state to the next.  I never 
said Bush was perfect, but he is not a traitor.

>>> The reasons for attacking Iraq were made up lies.  The UN had
>>> nothing to do with it.
> 
> 
>> Really?  Where have you been since Iraq invaded Kuwait?  Do some
>> bloody research before opening your mouth and demonstrating either
>> ignorance or foolishness:
> 
> 
> Mr. Bush I had no interest in bringing down Saddam, so what has that
> got to do with the current situation?  Are you saying we had to
> invade Iraq because of Kuwait?

Actually we did, the first time.

My point is, that Iraq has been a problem since that time.

>> There are over 30 UN resolutions regarding Iraq and it's aggression
>>  towards Kuwait and other nations.  Included in many of these UN 
>> resolutions are the requirements of Iraq go comply with
>> disarmament.
>  
>> Further, are outlined the use of force to induce Iraq's compliance.
>> 
> 
> Where did the UN agree that an invasion was necessary?  Site the UN
> vote please?

Now you sound like Kerry.  Like President Bush, I don't believe that the 
US needs the UN's blessing to protect itself.

And not a vague reference to use of force.  A genuine
> statement listing invasion and regime change.  No one sane starts a
> war over a tantrum.  Now is the point you change your tune and say
> the US doesn't need anyone's permission to attack anyone it sees fit.

No, I said that just before.  Point is, the UN had resolutions outlining 
what would be done, then would not follow through.

I won't do the research for you, I've done it for my own sake so as to 
make an educated decision.  You would do well to do the same.  Have you 
read ANY of the UN resolutions regarding Iraq?

>> Start with Resolution 1441 and see for yourself.  I'll simply
>> assume you're ignorant rather than foolish.
> 
> Not as ignorant as our president.  About his only economic savings
> will be Mr. Bush's presidential library, which could be housed in a
> shoe box.  I'm sure his buddies can easily afford that.

Oh now that was relevant.  Ignore the facts and insult people, now 
that's a sign of intelligence.

I'll seriously not waste any more of my time discussing this with 
someone who has not done any research and prefers to rant like a lunatic.

-- 
Until later, Geoffrey