[Am-info] Yahoo! SBC DSL forces Mac users to browse with Internet Explorer

Sujal Shah sujal@sujal.net
01 Apr 2003 11:40:00 -0500


Yeah, I know you probably weren't affected, but I wanted to point out
that the best things to do, often, are to speak with your wallet and not
with emails.  I usually complain (ok, I almost always write in) when
sites don't work for artificial reasons.  But, I usually write in AND
take my business elsewhere.

Based on what I know about you, Mitch, I'm assuming you couldn't find
what you were buying elsewhere or couldn't match the deal you were
getting, so don't take offense at my comment above.  I am just trying to
point out that there are companies who take this (growing) market
seriously.

Oddly enough, I'm looking toward AOL to finally switch to Gecko as the
big momentum driver in terms of proper open site creation.  Just based
on my experience out in the marketplace, site creators already jump
through a variety of hoops to support AOL's user population.  Just think
of all of the "If you're using AOL, click here" type links you see on
sites... 

Sujal

On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 11:32, Mitch Stone wrote:
> Thanks, but I'm not personally effected. The question is why Yahoo 
> would require MSIE for registering for this service, or at least say 
> they do. Oddly, people who click through the warning screen are not 
> prevented from continuing with a non-approved browser, and IE isn't 
> required to actually use the service, just (ostensibly) to enlist. I 
> suspect this is mainly an artifact of lazy web programmers at work, but 
> no less annoying for it.
> 
> I had a similar experience with an e-tailer last week. The secure 
> payment form insisted that I had cookie acceptance turned off and 
> refused to process my order (why they require cookie acceptance for 
> this is beyond me, but not the point). In fact the site wasn't checking 
> for cookie acceptance, but browser flavor and version -- you needed to 
> be talking to them with the latest versions of either IE or Navigator.
> 
> This artificial barrier forced me to fire up MSIE to complete the order 
> (and reminded me what an awful piece of work it truly is). I included a 
> comment about this on my order -- and much to my surprise, they wrote 
> back saying they'd refer the issue to their programmers. The 
> programmers will probably say, "Feh! Why should we lift a finger to 
> help people who use minority web browsers?", but at least I can say I 
> tried. Most people would probably just assume that their browser was 
> broken, not the web site, and another default Microsoft customer would 
> be born.
> 
> On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 09:11 PM, Sujal Shah wrote:
> 
> >
> > Not to sound like a commercial, but Speakeasy is your friend if 
> > they're available in your area (which they should be around you, Mitch 
> > :) ).
> 
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>    Mitch Stone
>    mitch@accidentalexpert.com
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