Re[2]: [Am-info] Gene, we need a ruling - Spam and the list

Gene Gaines gene.gaines@gainesgroup.com
Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:31:15 -0400


To the complainers.

1. Fred Miller has been making contributions to the list.

   Since has has been doing something, of course he can be
   criticized.  (If he had done nothing, no criticism.)

2. I appreciate Fred's contributions.  I do not find every
   one of interest, but a number are useful to me, and I
   believe others on the list.

3. I will ask Fred, respectfully, so perhaps send a few
   less postings to the list.  (By the way, they are very
   short as he typically sends a subject which describes
   the issue and a link.  Pretty small bandwidth, that.)

4. Right now, the entire Microsoft vs consumers vs DOJ vs
   states vs court appeals is rather in limbo.  It is
   frustrating, but we do not need to take our frustrations
   out on other members of the list.

5. The purpose of this list "Appraising Microsoft" is to
   bring to light and discuss issues both pro and con relating
   to Microsoft particularly as relates to the issue of their
   monopoly and their crushing market power, as well as some
   of the horrific business tactics which Microsoft has taken
   in the past, to the company's everlasting shame.

6. Personally, Microsoft and their senior management disgust
   me, and have since their Basic and DOS days.  That is my
   opinion, but I try to be totally fair to all opinions in
   administrating this list.

7. We -- individually and collectively -- owe Fred Miller an
   apology.  I have sent him mine off-list.

8. As a result of this incident, actually the results of not
   nice comments made by several people, I will not contribute
   to the list for 30 days.

9. It is so very easy to throw mud by email.  We won't do it
   here.  Should you disagree with my statement, please email
   me off list, or phone me at 703-433-2081.

And Fred, thanks for your contributions.  They are appreciated.
But a few people on the list would feel better if you cut your
volume down a bit.

   
Gene
gene.gaines@gainesgroup.com

On Thursday, September 26, 2002, 11:18:14 PM, Mitch wrote:

> Personally,I don't think Fred Miller actually exists. My theory is, Fred 
> Miller is a cover for a stealth spam broadcasting service of some kind. 
> Has anyone named Fred Miller actually contributed a single word of actual 
> discussion of any kind? (about Microsoft, Mac fonts or anything?) Not that 
> I can recall.

> Maybe what REALLY bugs me about "Fred Miller" is that he can blast ten, 
> automated posts to this list on any given day, while half of my posts, 
> which I actually type with my own hands, bounce back or vanish into the 
> ether.

> Mitch

> On Thursday, September 26, 2002, at 11:05 AM, Mark Hinds wrote:

>>
>> Burn im! ee's a witch!!
>>
>> Give me a break. Fred's posts are more useful then the blabbering
>> about Mac's and Font's that went on a while back. I didn't complain
>> about that crap - I just ignored it. Fred's posts are useful to me so
>> I vote to let him be!
>>
>> I also took a poll and found that most people I asked found complaining
>> about Fred's posts far more troubling than his posts. OK, I only asked
>> myself, but I'm Irish and so count triple :-)
>>
>> perhaps this will help:
>> http://www.moviesounds.com/2001/stress.mp3
>>
>> Mark
>>
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