[Am-info] Microsoft Hotmail spam

Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:55:07 -0400

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Try this site http://relays.osirusoft.com/cgi-bin/rbcheck.cgi?addr=3D
or http://www.arin.net/whois/index.html=20

Edd

- -----Original Message-----
From: John Poltorak [mailto:jp@eyup.org]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 9:52 AM
To: Appraising Microsoft
Subject: Re: [Am-info] Microsoft Hotmail spam

On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 07:51:47AM -0500, Eric M. Hopper wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 05:38, John Poltorak wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> > Does anyone else get spam from Hotmail addresses?
> >=20
> > IMV Microsoft is responsible for sending out such unsolicited
> > junk email  because they are owners of the system where it
> > originates.
> >=20
> >=20
> > Has anyone every tried to complain about it? Who would you
> > complain to  anyway?
> >=20
> > It would be nice to see some class action taken against them.
> >=20
> > Wasn't there some legislation recently to try and curb this
> > abuse?=20
>=20
> Are you sure the spam is actually from Hotmail?  If you look at the
> headers, I bet it came from someplace completely different.  If
> Hotmail actually sent out spam, they'd be on the RBL in 2 seconds
> flat, and their users wouldn't be able to reach 10-30% of the
> world.
>=20
> The From: header was probably forged to look like it came from
> hotmail. =20

I don't actually trust the From: line anyway, I'm more inclined to
check=20
my Sendmail transaction logs. Here's something which I got earlier
today=20
which appeared to come from AOL rather than Hotmail:-

64801 S> 220-mail.eyup.org Sendmail IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION
2.03/2.0 ready at Sat, 27 Apr 2002 11:06:23 +0100

220 ESMTP spoken here
64801 S< EHLO srv1
64801 S> 250-mail.eyup.org Hello [210.155.134.91], pleased to meet
you
64801 S> 250-EXPN
64801 S> 250-SIZE
64801 S> 250 HELP
64801 S< MAIL From: SIZE=3D1574
64801 S> 250 ... Sender ok
64801 S< RCPT To:
64801 S> 250 ... Recipient ok
64801 S< DATA
64801 S> 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
64801 S> 250 LAA648.01 Message accepted for delivery
64801 S< QUIT
64801 S> 221 mail.eyup.org closing connection

Here, the From: will contain an AOL subscriber, but my mail server is
taking delivery from 210.155.134.91.

How do I tell who owns that system?=20

> -- Eric Hopper (hopper@omnifarious.org=20

- --=20
John

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