[Am-info] Re: MS Depositions
John Poltorak
jp@eyup.org
Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:44:45 +0000
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 07:53:43PM -0500, Geoffrey wrote:
> Eric Bennett wrote:
>
>
> > Are you sure about that? Understanding that Windows existed in 1.0 and 2.0
> > versions before it became popular with the the 3.0 release. I thought
> > Windows was out *before* X.
>
>
> I thought Windows came out in 85? X, which was from MIT went commercial
> in 86, but was being used in the early 80s.
>
> If we want to get real picky, we would have to consider the precursor to
> the 5620 windowing terminal that was built by teletype in 1984. Layers,
> a windowing system for these devices was available even before then,
> again it was not commercial, but it was patented. I've got two 730
> layers terminals in my little hardare stash, and I've been planning on
> firing them up, since layers has been ported to Linux. :)
>
> So, where do Apple and Xerox fit into this picture puzzle??
Xerox invented the WIMP GUI at the Palo Alto Research Centre. Everything
else is derivative. It's difficult to say when it first came out as I'm
not sure if it was part of a commercial product.
WIMP - Windows, Icons, Mouse and Pointing devices.
> --
> Until later: Geoffrey esoteric@3times25.net
>
> "...the system (Microsoft passport) carries significant risks to users that
> are not made adequately clear in the technical documentation available."
> - David P. Kormann and Aviel D. Rubin, AT&T Labs - Research
> - http://www.avirubin.com/passport.html
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John