Re[2]: [Am-info] Down the River

[Gene Gaines]

To all,

First, we are having a good-spirited, well-intentioned
discussion here.  That's great!

Read the statement below carefully.  Here it is again:

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the
initiative in creating the Internet."

This statement is exactly true.

It was Gore who pursued, rather doggedly and aggressively, the
creation of the Internet.  It was his initiative, his pushing,
the funding that he was able to pull out of a variety of
government agencies, that did the work of transforming the
predecessor networks such as ARPANET, etc.

He was not Berners-Lee, or the writers of TCP/IP, or the
developers of packet switching, etc. etc.  But Gore understood
the benefits of a vision held by many people of an open,
shared, trans-border communications resource.

Within government, it was Gore who knocked on doors,
borrowed and begged resources, assembled a planning team,
and "took the initiative in creating the Internet".

To consciously use his work against him by turning it into
a big campaign lie is, in my view, rather despicable.

And Declan ran with it like a puppy dog with a rotten bone.
Shame on him.  Yes, it fed into his own political leanings,
but he misrepresented what was said.

Declan was reporting on an election, and campaign
dishonesty disgusts me.

I do not see much campaign dishonesty in service of high
poilitical principle.  I do see much campaign dishonesty
based on "I want my side to win because I get more".

Which leads my thinking back to Mr. Gates and DOJ.

Gene Gaines
gene.gaines@gainesgroup.com
Sterling, Virginia


On Saturday, November 03, 2001, 1:32:13 PM, Geoffrey wrote:

> Mike Stephen wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, 03 Nov 2001 11:40:29 -0500, Geoffrey wrote:
>> 
>> He never did say he created the internet. That was a badly misquoted comment
>> made by an idiot wired reporter.  I think it was ..... Declan....
>> 
>> Get the exact statement (not the one mangled by Declan.....)

> Exact wording:

> "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative
> in
> creating the Internet."

> So you tell me what that says to the average person?

>> 
>> >Mark Hinds wrote:
>> >>
>> >> John J. Urbaniak wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I supported George W. Bush.  I voted for him.  I must say I'm very
>> >> >disappointed in this.
>> >>
>> >> How can one be dissappointed by a predictable outcome
>> >> such as this? If one voted for bush then one voted for
>> >> this outcome.
>> >>
>> >> I voted for Gore because he had the brass to stand up at
>> >> the MS campus and tell employees that he supported anti-trust
>> >> enforcement.
>> >
>> >Yeah, and he also created the internet.  Let's face it folks,
>> >politicians lie to get whatever they want.  Stupid lies, (like claiming
>> >to create the internet) are worse though.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Until later: Geoffrey          esoteric@denali.atlnet.com
>> >
>> >"...the system (Microsoft passport) carries significant risks to users
>> >that
>> >are not made adequately clear in the technical documentation available."
>> >- David P. Kormann and Aviel D. Rubin, AT&T Labs - Research
>> >- http://www.avirubin.com/passport
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>> >From the Desk of Mike Stephen

> --
> Until later: Geoffrey           esoteric@denali.atlnet.com

> "...the system (Microsoft passport) carries significant risks to users
> that
> are not made adequately clear in the technical documentation available."
> - David P. Kormann and Aviel D. Rubin, AT&T Labs - Research
> - http://www.avirubin.com/passport
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