[A2k] !@! Re: [Upd-discuss] MORE Swindle Context 3: World Blind Union's Proposed Exceptions Treaty

[Michael S. Hart]

The trouble with you, Mr. Stallman, is that you want listening, then
evidence, from others, but you are not offering it yourself.

Thus, this is NOT a CONVERSATION ON YOUR PART, just ranting/raving.

Do you homework before coming to class as embarrassing us all here.

You could have spent a minute looking up how many blind there are.

So many time you skip the few minutes it would take to do research
that would make your at least appear to be worth a listen.

It's a two way street, and YOU can't blame anyone for not listening
to you if you don't show you are listening to them.

Otherwise, even if you are right, which you often are, there is not
any support from those not already in your choir.

I have asked/warned/commented/suggested you change this for years--
and I am not going to stop until one of us is dead or you change.

If I die first, I hope someone picks it up in my name.

You could do SOOO much more if you just treated people honestly and
as human beings.

Sometimes I am embarrassed that you and I are listed as co-founders
of the Open Source Movement.


Michael S. Hart
Founder, 1971
Project Gutenberg,
Inventor of eBooks




On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Richard M Stallman wrote:

> Although you accused me of speaking from ignrance, nothing in your
> message invalidates the arguments I have previously posted.

No, Mr. Stallman, it is YOU you have failed to provide the evidence
asked for in earlier requests.

Just where does it say giving the blind any assistance oppresses the
rest of us?

You just take what they offer and do NOT offer approval of the rest.

Simple as pie.

Unless you have some evidence to the contrary you are withholding.

You have also failed to respond to the evidence I offered as to the
Kindle being statistically insignificant, easy to WIPOut if you try.




>
>     The biggest beneficiaries of the treaty will be blind and other disabled
>     persons living in developing countries, who will get access to the
>     collections in the US and Europe.
>
> The problem with measures to give blind people a special exemption
> from unjust copyright power is that they help cement the oppressive
> regime over all the rest of us.
>
> I would be glad to support an effort to help blind people read, all
> else being equal.  I will not, however, support an effort to gain them
> a separate peace so as to leave the rest of us fighting an even more
> difficult fight.
>
>     You are degenerating this effort because the numbers of reading disabled
>     persons don't seem large to you.  This is offensive.
>
> There is no reason you should feel offended.  To deny that one person
> X is more important than 10,000 other persons is no insult to X.
>
> The proposed treaty raises the issue of comparative numbers, because
> it singles out a certain group to liberate while abandoning the rest.
> If we all stick together, and fight for freedom for everyone, we will
> all win together when we win, and there is no need to ask about the
> size of any subset of us.
>