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Re: Laura/Margaret/Greg: A conflict in core beliefs



Greg wrote:
> I have 
>yet to see you, Margaret, give an inch on a single issue. I guess you are 
>always right (or is it "left"?).
>...
>it is interesting to see you advocating for the "rights" of a bunch of 
>older white guys who make $100k/year and more. I would think, based on 
>previous correspondence, that you would conclude that "they make too much 
>as it is" and that they should be perfectly willing to take a cut in 
>salary. After all, who needs $100k a year!?

Christ on a bicycle, Greg, you really just don't get it, do you?!?
Truly amazing!   Or maybe not :-\

I generally don't _need_ to 'give an inch', bubele.   Take the
Clinton scandal, since you brought it up.  I'm not a Clinton
apologist, and i said so from Day Zero.  So i didn't need to shift
my position:  he's terrible, but the right-wing ratbags are worse. 

Similarly, unlike you, i'm not an economic fundamentalist.  I'm for
equality, fairness, freedom, and mutual support in time of trouble.
That, to me, is what a healthy society is all about.  That's a very
straightforward position to measure things against!  It doesn't
depend on some self-serving notion that my interests are 'natural'
or 'sacred' but the interests of others aren't.   I can just look at
something and say 'is it fair?  nope?  then i'm agin it'.  Simple
proposition.  I don't need to check my own interests first -- my
interests will be looked after in a fair and mutually-supportive
society.  

So i frankly don't give a rap how much the pilots make a year, or
that they're mostly a bunch of chauvinist middle-aged white men.
What i care about is that the legal deck is stacked against them.
The government -- as usual -- is on the side of Capital.  That's why
i laugh in disgust at claims like yours about goverment making it
hard for business.   It's a self-serving fantasy.  Propaganda,
nothing more.

As Laura and Lynn have pointed out repeatedly, people matter.
Fairness matters.  It's _important_, Greg.   In the long run, it's
vital.   Pity your 'religion' keeps you from seeing it.