Re: bundling is inherently unfair to consumers

[James LewisMoss <dres@ioa.com>]

>>>>> On Mon,  6 Dec 1999 21:01:11 -0500 (EST), "Lewis A. Mettler" <lmettler@lamlaw.com> said:

 Lewis> Mitch, I call stupid suggestions and ideas "stupid".

No, you go a bit beyond that.  You call people stupid.

 Lewis> I also call perjury when I see it.

 Lewis> I also know the difference between arguments that only support
 Lewis> the vendor of a product or the promotion of a product and
 Lewis> refuse to acknowledge the very basic rights of consumers.

 Lewis> I also suggest that I am just about the only person on this
 Lewis> list without an agenda to promote a specific product by a

Ya.  Right.  I have no agenda.  No product.  I'm tired of your
messages as well.

 Lewis> particular vendor.  Or somehow feels that they must argue in
 Lewis> such a way to force the sale of a particular product or force
 Lewis> the use of a particular product.

Ya right.

 Lewis> I do apologize for being rather blunt.  But, I call everything
 Lewis> as I see it.

Blunt and impolite are the same thing in your book?  What a sad thing.

 Lewis> If you are going to make stupid suggestions in public about
 Lewis> reasons why consumers must buy your product, then "yes" you
 Lewis> can expect to be chastised for your effort.


 Lewis> Mitch Stone wrote:
 >>
 >> --- From a message sent by Eric M. Hopper on 12/6/99 11:37 AM ---
 >>
 >> >       You know, I'm tired of being called stupid every time I
 >> >       don't
 >> >agree with you.
 >>
 >> I've had a quick check through the list archives and found (not to
 >> my surprise) that Mr. Mettler has at one point or several
 >> questioned the mental acuity of nearly every regular participant
 >> on this list, and has done so in a particularly, brusque,
 >> distainful, insulting and degrading manner. He has single-handedly
 >> driven down the level of discourse in this venue to a point where
 >> it is personally becoming more of a burden then a benefit to
 >> subscribe. He is a tribute to the power of one individual to
 >> poison the well from which others would draw.
 >>
 >> He apparently has no concept of the damage he does. He has not
 >> apologized to anyone (though he has been asked), and presumably
 >> will never, no matter how unforgivably he treats other people.

 Lewis> Am I the one suggesting to consumers that they must part with
 Lewis> their money even though they know they do not want a product?

I'm not sure what this has to do with anything said in this message.

 >> I am tempted to conclude that this behavior has a clinical
 >> definition, but I really don't know much about these things.

 Lewis> If you lie in court you get prosecuted for perjury.

Again I'm really not sure what this has to do with anything in this
message. 

 >> I know only that I am sick and tired of his pompous,
 >> condescending, self-important and coarsely contemptuous
 >> personality. He is the black hole of civility down which were are
 >> being sucked, and I don't appreciate it one bit.

 Lewis> Perhaps.  But I do represent the consumers and independant
 Lewis> developers in the industry and not just one particular product
 Lewis> or company.

Ah bullcrap.  You don't represent anything but your view of reality.
Don't take the high and mighty.

Jim

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