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RE: IP Addresses Do Not Wear Out
- To: "'Alec H. Peterson'" <ahp@hilander.com>, Karl Denninger <karl@mcs.net>
- Subject: RE: IP Addresses Do Not Wear Out
- From: Jim Fleming <JimFleming@doorstep.unety.net>
- Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:34:08 -0500
- Cc: "antitrust@essential.org" <antitrust@essential.org>, "antitrust@usdoj.gov" <antitrust@usdoj.gov>, "arin-council@arin.net" <arin-council@arin.net>, "dmitchel@nsf.gov" <dmitchel@nsf.gov>, "ejk@digex.net" <ejk@digex.net>, Avi Freedman <freedman@netaxs.com>
- Cc: "heath@isoc.org" <heath@isoc.org>, "jcurran@bbnplanet.com" <jcurran@bbnplanet.com>, Jim Fleming <JimFleming@doorstep.unety.net>, "michael@memra.com" <michael@memra.com>, "weisberg@texoma.net" <weisberg@texoma.net>
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On Monday, April 13, 1998 7:21 PM, Alec H. Peterson[SMTP:ahp@hilander.com] wrote:
@At 08:17 PM 4/13/98 , Karl Denninger wrote:
@>
@>Avi, your "doomsday scenario" is not real. It simply isn't. If someone
@>gets a /19 and doesn't use more than 2 /24s out of it, when the space really
@>DOES get tight we go back and forcibly reclaim the other /24s out of the
@>block.
@
@Oh, I see.
@
@We just take back the unused space. Yeah right. Until we can prove that
@we can actually reclaim space from existing allocations _today_, then there
@is no way we can bank on being able to do it in the future.
@
All you have to do is setup a "neighbor net" plan. People
then help by turning space back in that they see in the
abandoned spaces next to them. This distributes the load.
No central agency needs to play secret agent and all that
nonsense.
There is a lot of space out there that could be recycled.
It is as useless as the space that is sitting on Jon Postel's
shelf waiting for a rainy day. Hoarding is the bad thing and
Jon just happens to be the largest hoader. In a neighbor net
approach, his so-called IANA space would be turned back
in and people could put it to use, assuming they can get
the routing table entries. That is really the scarce resource.
-
Jim Fleming
Unir Corporation
IBC, Tortola, BVI