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One More Time
- To: "'Avi Freedman'" <freedman@netaxs.com>, Karl Denninger <karl@mcs.net>
- Subject: One More Time
- From: Jim Fleming <JimFleming@doorstep.unety.net>
- Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 18:56:24 -0500
- Cc: "antitrust@essential.org" <antitrust@essential.org>, "antitrust@usdoj.gov" <antitrust@usdoj.gov>, "arin-council@arin.net" <arin-council@arin.net>, "dmitchel@nsf.gov" <dmitchel@nsf.gov>, "ejk@digex.net" <ejk@digex.net>, "heath@isoc.org" <heath@isoc.org>
- Cc: "jcurran@bbnplanet.com" <jcurran@bbnplanet.com>, "JimFleming@doorstep.unety.net" <JimFleming@doorstep.unety.net>, "michael@memra.com" <michael@memra.com>, "weisberg@texoma.net" <weisberg@texoma.net>
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On Monday, April 13, 1998 2:41 PM, Avi Freedman[SMTP:freedman@netaxs.com] wrote:
@> > I claim that it is hard to verify. The work is trivial to appear to be
@> > an ISP, for a huge gain.
@>
@> What gain? Address space is not owned, right? It has no value, right?
@
@Karl, whether it's owned or not, if we run out we could be in deep doodoo.
@
Avi...let me try one more time...here is a small exercise...
Let's say that we have an 8 bit address space with only 256
addresses. Let's say that we decide never to give out a block
smaller than 8 continguous addresses. This would result in
a maximum of 32 blocks. Now, let's say that we give these
32 blocks out to the following 7 companies:
A - 8 blocks
B - 4 blocks
C - 2 blocks
D - 2 blocks
E - 8 blocks
F - 4 blocks
G - 4 blocks
OK...the shelf is empty...except in five minutes we discover
that company D is going out of business and their block is
turned in by companies C and E who watch as part of their
"neighbor net" duties. Those 2 blocks from D can be given to
one new arriving company. The new company may only need
one of the 2 blocks so we may end up with 8 companies in
the list above, or a block on the "shelf" for a short period of
time.
Someone could probably build a simulation of this sort of
checking in and out system. The point I am trying to make is
that there should not be any fear that IP space will not be
there because there is always something changing. In a
large address space, there will always be blocks in one of
four states.
1. In-use
2. Being Turned In (This is where we should be looking)
3. Being Checked Out
4. On the Shelf (This can approach zero and #2 can still feed #3)
What good does it do to have little or no time or money spent
on #2 above and have the shelf full while everyone argues that
#3 should not occur because they do not want people to use
the blocks ?
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Jim Fleming
Unir Corporation
IBC, Tortola, BVI