Re: Microsoft bootlicker sues Netscape

[Linux Idiot <esoteric@atlnet.com>]

Sujal Shah wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, Dan Strychalski wrote:
> 
> > Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:38:45 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: Dan Strychalski <dski@cameonet.cameo.com.tw>
> > To: Multiple recipients of list <am-info@essential.org>
> > Subject: Re: Microsoft bootlicker sues Netscape
> >
> > Kind of like a newsstand owner unobtrusively slipping one insert into
> > the Times for black customers and another for white....
> 
> I think you're being paranoid, just a bit.  In fact, I think you're crazy
> if you equate your statement above to JavaScripts which check browser
> versions.

The fact the the programmer used a string or variable called inferior is
a reflection of the programmers belief, or sense of humor.  Either way,
there's more to it then just identifying browsers.  We do it as well,
but we don't label IE "piece_of_os_crashing_shit" although that does
reflect my personal opinion.

> 
> THose scripts are usually used to ensure that your content is viewable by
> everyone out there.  In other words, if you have a Java applet on your
> page, but you want to make sure your lynx or Opera users can browse your
> site, you may want to redirect them to a separate page, or give them a
> different context (i.e. without frames or audio, or a lot of images).
> 
> In many cases, it's an attempt to provide equal content to all people.  A
> better example would be a newsstand or library (something that IS done
> now) taking the Times and printing it out in Braille for a blind person so
> that they can read the same news as you, but without the pictures and
> other bells and whistles.

Sure it is, go check out the gaming zone.  It's MS sight that will tell
you up fron that they don't support non MS OS or non MS browsers. 
Equality my ass.

> 
> Relax, for crying out loud.
> 
> >
> > Another thing: As I understand it, a script like that is a set of
> > instructions to the browser. It is executed on the user's machine,
> > taking control from the consumer and giving it to the supplier.
> >
> 
> Man you are paranoid, aren't you?  This script is a set of instructions to
> the browser.  It's meant to be executed on the client side because
> typically, the client has more processing power to spare than the server
> machine.  If you don't like it, you can turn off the JavaScript and the
> content, if written correctly will just direct you to the Lynx or
> "Alternative" browser version.

You are totally wrong here.  This script segment is designed to identify
the browser, therefore it must run on the client side.  It has nothing
to do with processing power available.

> 
> Give me a break, you need to find a new hobby instead of looking for
> conspiracies in everything.

You need to be a bit more accurate when calling someone else paranoid.
Some of your facts are just plain wrong.

> 
> Opera, Netscape, and competition forever.
> 
> Sujal
> 
> > Lynx forever.
> >
> > Daniel N. Strychalski                      dski@cameonet.cameo.com.tw
> >
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